CitizenVectron Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 There is a good chunk of people that believe police should just kill "bad" people. And if they turn out to be innocent, well, "mistakes happen." I know people like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, sblfilms said: The police report from the Jacob Blake shooting says that the woman who called 911 alleges that Blake sexually assaulted her by digital penetration prior to the arrival of the police. Once again, we can oppose racist policing without pretending this guy was a great person. Him being a good or bad guy is not relevant to whether police ought to be shooting people. Why you gotta call out lucian like that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 White House directs OMB to cancel any any federal contracts providing race related and diversity training, calling them “un-American propaganda.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/04/white-house-racial-sensitivity-training/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_whracetraining-915pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, osxmatt said: White House directs OMB to cancel any any federal contracts providing race related and diversity training, calling them “un-American propaganda.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/04/white-house-racial-sensitivity-training/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_whracetraining-915pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans I'm in full agreement that anything involving "racial sensitivity" is VERY much "un-American". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Hot take: cops aren’t supposed to kill guilty people either Another hot take: folks are innocent until proven guilty in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 52 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Another hot take: folks are innocent until proven guilty in this country. By the government, not by the court of public opinion which is what my post is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, osxmatt said: White House directs OMB to cancel any any federal contracts providing race related and diversity training, calling them “un-American propaganda.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/04/white-house-racial-sensitivity-training/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_whracetraining-915pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 16 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: There is a good chunk of people that believe police should just kill "bad" people. And if they turn out to be innocent, well, "mistakes happen." I know people like this. I mean the president is one of these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I mean the president is one of these people. By his nieces account, he is DEFINITELY one of those people. I saw in an interview where she talked about how her grandfather flipped out when the first Italian family moved into their Queens neighborhood. Hilarious that a lot of Italians and Irish in particular now embrace the same racist attitudes they were once victims of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I felt like this belongs in both threads...way to read the room on ramping up reasons for goon squads who've openly endorsed Trump to interact with restaurants, many of which in NYC will be minority-owned. 26 minutes ago, Jason said: Cuomo’s Scheme to Put 4,000 Cops in NYC Restaurants Would Be a Disaster Nothing says health and safety like heavily armed city employees notorious for not wearing masks. Quote The city’s outdoor-dining program is slated to end October 31. Why not throw some of the police budget toward subsidized heat lamps to keep diners and workers in the open air as long as possible — maybe even all winter long? If New York dining ever does move back inside, the city needs to do everything it can to shut the cops out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: By his nieces account, he is DEFINITELY one of those people. I saw in an interview where she talked about how her grandfather flipped out when the first Italian family moved into their Queens neighborhood. Hilarious that a lot of Italians and Irish in particular now embrace the same racist attitudes they were once victims of. It really is interesting how the last 120 years in the US have seen several ethnicities go from not-white to white, and gaining all the privileges afforded to whites here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jason said: I felt like this belongs in both threads...way to read the room on ramping up reasons for goon squads who've openly endorsed Trump to interact with restaurants, many of which in NYC will be minority-owned. If he actually goes through with it, I would have a huge with it, definitely. I think this is just his way of making sure indoor dining doesn't happen, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It really is interesting how the last 120 years in the US have seen several ethnicities go from not-white to white, and gaining all the privileges afforded to whites here. It's happening to Hispanics before our eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: It's happening to Hispanics before our eyes. Looking forward, since there really aren't many Latino politicians on the right around here, to seeing Latino republicans tell their family story, about how their family came here the right way--the legal way-- and it turns out their family was either undocumented or was granted citizenship during the Regan administration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Looking forward, since there really aren't many Latino politicians on the right around here, to seeing Latino republicans tell their family story, about how their family came here the right way--the legal way-- and it turns out their family was either undocumented or was granted citizenship during the Regan administration There's plenty of conservative latinos who hate latino immigrants, it's disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, SlipperySlope said: There's plenty of conservative latinos who hate latino immigrants, it's disgusting. There are so many of them from Puerto Rico. Many of the boomer generation don't really understand how they're treated as second class citizens while also not understanding how nice and easy it is for them and their families to move to the mainland compared to the rest of Latin America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: There are so many of them from Puerto Rico. Many of the boomer generation don't really understand how they're treated as second class citizens while also not understanding how nice and easy it is for them and their families to move to the mainland compared to the rest of Latin America. The Mexican ones I've met are just self-hating Mexicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, SlipperySlope said: There's plenty of conservative latinos who hate latino immigrants, it's disgusting. In the Cuban Republican facebook group I was in, many Cubans in there would get angry if you called them Latino. They consider themselves Cuban American only and not Latino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Joe said: In the Cuban Republican facebook group I was in, many Cubans in there would get angry if you called them Latino. They consider themselves Cuban American only and not Latino. "Latino" seems to be mostly an American construct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 You mean white Americans lazily lumped together a random group of ethnicities and nationalities because they have superficial similarities? That doesn’t sound accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 16 hours ago, SlipperySlope said: "Latino" seems to be mostly an American construct. Is it though? Interesting, definitely something to investigate further. My wife's family in Mexico definitely considers themselves to be Latino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Joe said: Is it though? Interesting, definitely something to investigate further. My wife's family in Mexico definitely considers themselves to be Latino. Ya it's not an American thing. Americans just group us all together as a monolith group though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Ya it's not an American thing. Americans just group us all together as a monolith group though. Not Joe Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 LatinX CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE, VATO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, Joe said: Is it though? Interesting, definitely something to investigate further. My wife's family in Mexico definitely considers themselves to be Latino. 52 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Ya it's not an American thing. Americans just group us all together as a monolith group though. Yeah. I guess I should elaborate, in America, when white people use Latino it seems to mean something else than when Latin Americans in Latin America say Latino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Spork3245 said: LatinX CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE, VATO That is 100% American for sure. I get it's trying to be gender inclusive, but it also allows Americans to see all Latin Americans as one big group of "them." Meanwhile you're supposed to care about the differences between Switzerland and Denmark or you're dumb and uncultured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 18 hours ago, SlipperySlope said: "Latino" seems to be mostly an American construct. Doesn't it describe people on the American continents of Latin descent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, SlipperySlope said: That is 100% American for sure. I get it's trying to be gender inclusive, but it also allows Americans to see all Latin Americans as one big group of "them." Meanwhile you're supposed to care about the differences between Switzerland and Denmark or you're dumb and uncultured. They are all a bunch of goat milk drinking yodelers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: They are all a bunch of goat milk drinking yodelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Doesn't it describe people on the American continents of Latin descent? It -does- but I think Americans use it to be lazy. I guess it's weird because I'm "Latino" but I would never describe myself as "a Latino." When someone refers to me as a Latino I pause and then go "oh right that's what they call us." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: LatinX CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE, VATO VatX 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Speaking of racism: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: LatinX CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE, VATO My brother getting called a vato loco at a McDonald's by some workers who had no idea he could speak Spanish is still one of my favorite stories ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Police Squad, ahead of their times 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/09/01/908019394/52-black-former-franchisees-sue-mcdonalds-alleging-discrimination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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