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6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

 

Calling the police is absolutely ridiculous, but if you read the story, the guy was a douche, too. One time humping is obviously no big deal, but for it to repeatedly happen is not okay.

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10 minutes ago, Jose said:

 

Calling the police is absolutely ridiculous, but if you read the story, the guy was a douche, too. One time humping is obviously no big deal, but for it to repeatedly happen is not okay.

And while the police were there her dog started humping his dog in an aggressive manner (which he points and laughs about in the video)

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I was with the dude until he started following her around. What grown man is going to escalate a situation with a woman like that? He went from more or less falsely accused of posing a danger to actively posing a danger.

 

Still, stop calling the cops, white people. Black dude could literally be shot or otherwise assaulted over nothing.

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8 minutes ago, Chadatog said:

 

Isn't that kind of the point?

I don’t think so generally. The view these people tend to have is colored by their own interactions with the police. They don’t expect the person to be harmed because they don’t perceive police as a threat.

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There's clearly some presumption of favoritism when you dial the police over a dumb argument that doesn't require them and you'd have to live in a hole to be unaware of the issues surrounding minorities and the police. You could convince me that some particular individual cases are relatively innocent but it happens with such frequency that the amount of people who are actively seeking the favoritism and lethal force of the police as (yes) a trump card must be in at least equal amounts. 

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https://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/03/exclusive-grand-jury-returns-16-felony.html

 

"Embattled TV star Jussie Smollett's legal problems have just become significantly more serious as a Cook County grand jury has returned a 16-count true bill of charges against him in connection with his alleged falsification of a hate crime in Streeterville in late January."

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@SilentWorld, why would you feel bad for someone who lied, paid people to beat him up to invoke sympathy in an attempt to get a pay raise, and destroyed his own career? He did it to himself, this isn't a case of something like an addiction where the substance abuse altered his judgment. I'm not even sure if mental health can be claimed as more things came out. He lied, he wasted the time of law enforcement, was caught, he continued to lie. What is there to feel bad about here?

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5 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

@SilentWorld, why would you feel bad for someone who lied, paid people to beat him up to invoke sympathy in an attempt to get a pay raise, and destroyed his own career? He did it to himself, this isn't a case of something like an addiction where the substance abuse altered his judgment. I'm not even sure if mental health can be claimed as more things came out. He lied, he wasted the time of law enforcement, was caught, he continued to lie. What is there to feel bad about here?

 

I don't see how you decide that this sounds like a good idea without some kind of mental health issue being involved. 

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11 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I don't see how you decide that this sounds like a good idea without some kind of mental health issue being involved. 

At my job, I see varying degrees of mental health issues. There are people broken beyond repair and I feel for them. Then there are just assholes who know perfectly well what they're doing, despite their mental illness. They're still assholes and responsible for their actions. 

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10 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Just because you lack sympathy for some idiot putting himself in a bad situation, doesn't mean you're enjoying their suffering. 

Hm good point. 

 

7 minutes ago, Chris- said:

i thought socialists love when bad people suffer???

 

I guess there’s very few people I’d call bad. And making up a story for attention doesn’t really qualify. We all want attention and to feel validated. Some of us just go about it the wrong way. 

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7 minutes ago, SilentWorld said:

Hm good point. 

 

 

I guess there’s very few people I’d call bad. And making up a story for attention doesn’t really qualify. We all want attention and to feel validated. Some of us just go about it the wrong way. 

 

all capitalists are bad; bezos should pull a mccain

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40 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

At my job, I see varying degrees of mental health issues. There are people broken beyond repair and I feel for them. Then there are just assholes who know perfectly well what they're doing, despite their mental illness. They're still assholes and responsible for their actions. 

 

I think you can still feel bad for them even if you're fed up with dealing with them and think they deserve what's coming to them. This issue's come up in a hobby group of mine recently, someone managed to get himself banned for a year from events by consistently acting like a raging asshole and responded by doubling down on the same behavior that got him banned in the first place. Apparently he has PTSD from his military service, which I know for myself initially garnered some sympathy and I'm pretty sure I wasn't alone on that one, but he's he's clearly not getting any help for his issues and he refuses to so much as take ownership of the shitty behavior. So I feel kind of bad for him, but I'm out of sympathy for him.

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45 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I think you can still feel bad for them even if you're fed up with dealing with them and think they deserve what's coming to them. This issue's come up in a hobby group of mine recently, someone managed to get himself banned for a year from events by consistently acting like a raging asshole and responded by doubling down on the same behavior that got him banned in the first place. Apparently he has PTSD from his military service, which I know for myself initially garnered some sympathy and I'm pretty sure I wasn't alone on that one, but he's he's clearly not getting any help for his issues and he refuses to so much as take ownership of the shitty behavior. So I feel kind of bad for him, but I'm out of sympathy for him.

I deal with too much. My compassion reserves are pretty limited these days.

 

We have this asshole who comes in about once a month because they swallow razor blades. They have borderline personality disorder, but they know what they're doing. They game the system. Instead of just confining this idiot to a mental institution, they get out back out on the street every time to do the same thing over. And each time they come in, we have to sacrifice a patient care tech to sit with them 24/7, when we're desperate for help on the floor. 

 

It's a damn game to this person and they know it. It keeps them out of jail for other petty crimes, because the police don't want to deal with them. 

 

 

Do this every day and it'll wear on you. 

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

 

I don't see how you decide that this sounds like a good idea without some kind of mental health issue being involved. 

 

I guess stupidity is kinda sorta mental health...?

 

2 hours ago, SilentWorld said:

I don't feel any particular joy from seeing someone suffer, even if they are the cause of their own suffering. 

 

Who said I’m enjoying his suffering? I’m not. That doesn’t mean I feel bad for him.

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45 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

I guess stupidity is kinda sorta mental health...? 

 

I feel like you have to have something wrong with you beyond just being stupid to think this seemed like a good idea.

 

But as I said above, that doesn't mean I feel any particular sympathy for him.

 

1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I deal with too much. My compassion reserves are pretty limited these days.

 

We have this asshole who comes in about once a month because they swallow razor blades. They have borderline personality disorder, but they know what they're doing. They game the system. Instead of just confining this idiot to a mental institution, they get out back out on the street every time to do the same thing over. And each time they come in, we have to sacrifice a patient care tech to sit with them 24/7, when we're desperate for help on the floor. 

 

It's a damn game to this person and they know it. It keeps them out of jail for other petty crimes, because the police don't want to deal with them. 

 

 

Do this every day and it'll wear on you. 

 

Yeah, your perspective is obviously understandable. And again, I think you can think something like this seems like a sad situation without actively giving a shit about it or disagreeing with the idea that he's going to get what's coming to him. Just like with your razor guy--very sad, but very understandable that you're at the point of wanting him to just stay the fuck away.

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The more details that have come out the more this situation just reeks of hubris. I can still find sympathy for somebody who felt such a need for affirmation that they would do something like this. I especially see it having known two people of significant levels of fame who ended up making some terrible decisions that ended their careers.

 

A common theme of their time in the spotlight was the sort of people who attached themselves to these stars and how they reinforced the idea that they were important and deserving of so much. Humility is big part of what leads to longevity in success in these arenas because it causes you to take stock of why you are where you are, which is never solely your own doing.

 

You can certainly be critical of Smollett’s actions while still recognizing the humanity of the man and understanding what can drive a person to such lengths.

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