SaysWho? Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The federal government will spend an additional $16 billion to help farmers hurt by the US-China trade war, Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue announced Thursday. Quote Perdue said that the farmer aid will be paid for by an equivalent amount the US expects to pull in through tariffs. But Perdue also claimed that "China's gonna pay for these" -- a false assertion made repeatedly by Trump. The tariffs will instead be paid for by companies importing goods into the US and are often passed on to US consumers in the form of price hikes, a reality acknowledged by Trump's own top White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow. Trump last year already promised farmers a $12 billion aid package to help mitigate the first wave of Chinese retaliatory measures after Trump slapped tariffs on Chinese imports. This has layers, man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Redistribution of wealth is now official GOP policy, also one of the sticking points with China was demanding they limit subsidies to their own companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 How can they do that? Doesn't Congress set the budget?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 SOCiaLiSM at work here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 They suddenly don't seem concerned about where the money will come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: They suddenly don't seem concerned about where the money will come from. Yeah, how exactly is this being paid for? Not like it's the military after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodimus Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I'm already ready to read news about people not farmers figuring out how to get at the money for farmers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 The other thing about these subsidies, is that they just can't go on forever, but much of that market will be gone for a long time, if not indefinitely. After a full year of finding other sources for these products, ending the trade war isn't suddenly going to fix everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 So...farmers aren’t doing fine and happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 4 hours ago, TwinIon said: The other thing about these subsidies, is that they just can't go on forever, but much of that market will be gone for a long time, if not indefinitely. After a full year of finding other sources for these products, ending the trade war isn't suddenly going to fix everything. They just have to last through the Trump administration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They just have to last through the Trump administration I don't think they'll last another 6 years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I don't think they'll last another 6 years. Damn your blasphemous fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 17 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Damn your blasphemous fingers. sounds more like facing reality to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/don-t-say-we-didn-t-warn-you-a-phrase-from-china-signals-the-trade-war-could-get-even-worse/ar-AAC5jXm?ocid=AMZN Quote "We advise the U.S. side not to underestimate the Chinese side's ability to safeguard its development rights and interests. Don't say we didn't warn you!" the People's Daily said in a commentary titled "United States, don't underestimate China's ability to strike back." The paper is the official newspaper of the Communist Party of China. The phrase "Don't say we didn't warn you" was only used two other times by the People's Daily in history — in 1963 ahead of China's border war with India and in 1987 right before China went to war with Vietnam. "Will rare earths become a counter weapon for China to hit back against the pressure the United States has put on for no reason at all? The answer is no mystery," the paper said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, osxmatt said: Notable anticommunists like Grassley and Ernst were on the receiving ends of those checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Notable anticommunists like Grassley and Ernst were on the receiving ends of those checks. “Thanks to the government paying nearly 40% of their income, U.S. farmers are expected to end 2020 with higher profit than 2019 and the best net income in seven years, the Department of Agriculture said in its latest farm income forecast.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, osxmatt said: “Thanks to the government paying nearly 40% of their income, U.S. farmers are expected to end 2020 with higher profit than 2019 and the best net income in seven years, the Department of Agriculture said in its latest farm income forecast.” I wonder how much better big Ag is doing than your smaller outfits given what is known about who got government checks (read: rich got richer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I wonder how much better big Ag is doing than your smaller outfits given what is known about who got government checks (read: rich got richer) The gubmibt ag checks always massively favor big ag and phones like Ernst I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, osxmatt said: “Thanks to the government paying nearly 40% of their income, U.S. farmers are expected to end 2020 with higher profit than 2019 and the best net income in seven years, the Department of Agriculture said in its latest farm income forecast.” Socialism for land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Damn welfare queens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Someone should tell them about bootstraps, they work wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Any time some GOP fucknut starts screaming SOCIALISM! they should have their face caved in with a fucking hammer. Remember when the tea party was a thing? What happened to all of those people? It's almost like they don't actually believe in a single fucking thing they pretend to. Politics is literally nothing but tribalism at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, ort said: Any time some GOP fucknut starts screaming SOCIALISM! they should have their face caved in with a fucking hammer. Remember when the tea party was a thing? What happened to all of those people? It's almost like they don't actually believe in a single fucking thing they pretend to. Politics is literally nothing but tribalism at this point. The tea party morphed/evolved into Trump voters and QAnon. The internet just made them worse and crazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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