Jason Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Quote Alabama lawmakers voted Tuesday to ban virtually all abortions in the state — including for victims of rape and incest — sending the strictest law in the nation to the state’s Republican governor, who is expected to sign it. The measure permits abortion only when necessary to save a mother’s life, an unyielding standard that runs afoul of federal court rulings. Those who backed the new law said they don’t expect it to take effect, instead intending its passage to be part of a broader strategy by antiabortion activists to persuade the U.S. Supreme Court to reconsider the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling, which legalized abortion nationwide. Governors and lawmakers across the country are rushing to pass highly restrictive abortion bills in hopes of attracting the attention of what they see as the most antiabortion U.S. Supreme Court in decades. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/alabama-senate-passes-nations-most-restrictive-abortion-law-which-makes-no-exceptions-for-victims-of-rape-and-incest/2019/05/14/e3022376-7665-11e9-b3f5-5673edf2d127_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Guess they wanted to one-up Georgia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Gotta protect that religious freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I'll freely admit that I simply don't believe in the "right" to choose to have an abortion. My entire support for the availability of abortion is based on one simple premise: abortion should be available so that society isn't burdened with unwanted mouths to feed. That's it - that's all the justification that should ever be necessary. No need to get twisted into theoretical knots about the existence of this right or that right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Hmm let's check the rankings...scrolling down...scrolling down...scrolling way way down. Ah! There you are Alabama! #49. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Any way Puerto Rico and Alabama can swap stateshood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Hmm let's check the rankings...scrolling down...scrolling down...scrolling way way down. Ah! There you are Alabama! #49. Today is opposite day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, Emblazon said: Any way Puerto Rico and Alabama can swap stateshood? We need a state relegation system. Sorry Alabama, better luck next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Garbage state stays being garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Shall not infringe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Alabama is the DUFF of states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Republicans are one step closer to fulfilling their ultimate goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, osxmatt said: Republicans are one step closer to fulfilling their ultimate goal. Their goal is to turn America into Saudi Arabia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Their goal is to turn America into Saudi Arabia. Yeah but like a Christian Saudi Arabia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 One of these states should have Kevin D. Williamson write their abortion law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: One of these states should have Kevin D. Williamson write their abortion law The Atlantic editorial staff can then proofread it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Alabama should REQUIRE abortions. With this bill they're accelerating the path to the historical document known as Idiocracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, osxmatt said: This checks out as murder is more serious than rape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Roberts should have a nice heel turn and vote to uphold abortion rights. He won't, but he should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Conveniently, the most recently confirmed SCOTUS judge is a sociopathic frat bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Why put in writing the incest abortions are illegal? Isn't that how most of their population was conceived in the first place? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Roberts should have a nice heel turn and vote to uphold abortion rights. He won't, but he should 41 minutes ago, osxmatt said: The Roberts court will strike down the near complete Alabama ban, and then uphold the 6 week bans. The mainstream press will be complicit in spreading the message that this Is a triumph of moderation and compromise from SCOTUS. This is how the court will acheive defacto banning of abortion while trying to blunt the political backlash of a fairly unpopular issue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I hope all their wives and daughters get raped and impregnated. Repeatedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Not sure why pro-choice people bother bringing up the rape or incest issue, it isn’t as though you would agree to a bill that limits all other abortions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: Not sure why pro-choice people bother bringing up the rape or incest issue, it isn’t as though you would agree to a bill that limits all other abortions It's an important connection, though. Refusing those exceptions is extremely unpopular. Allowing them is nonsensical. It's an issue that perhaps best encapsulates why outlawing abortion is ultimately unworkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: It's an important connection, though. Refusing those exceptions is extremely unpopular. Allowing them is nonsensical. It's an issue that perhaps best encapsulates why outlawing abortion is ultimately unworkable. The issue of rape/incest exceptions is a red herring, without question. The vast vast vast majority of abortions are those of personal convenience and one side opposes that and the other side supports it. Getting caught up in fringe cases is a distraction from the actual discussion...if there can even be a legitimate discussion at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Fuck anyone who supports this bs. You don’t fucking care for those that this hurts, that includes people who want a baby but get the shit luck of the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Alabama... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, chakoo said: Fuck anyone who supports this bs. You don’t fucking care for those that this hurts, that includes people who want a baby but get the shit luck of the draw. It's more than possible that some of the people who support this law because they feel that abortion is murder. I don't think it necessarily helps the pro-choice side when they scream that these law makers "only want to control a woman's body", when in many cases, that is not the reason at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 So, medically speaking, how early can (not should) birth be induced? Rather than have an "abortion" is there a way a doctor can have a woman give birth pre-viability? "They didn't have an abortion, they just gave birth 7 months premature". They didn't kill it; it just didn't survive. Probably silly. I'm just spit-balling for loopholes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: It's more than possible that some of the people who support this law because they feel that abortion is murder. I don't think it necessarily helps the pro-choice side when they scream that these law makers "only want to control a woman's body", when in many cases, that is not the reason at all. Regardless of the lawmakers' intentions, that's what they're doing. And it isn't in the interest of the person's wellbeing. It's in the interest of a fetus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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