Living Alone Causes Mental Disorders, Study Finds

[Boyle5150]

5 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

at an individual level must seriously consider that the zero probability of subjecting another life to both pain and pleasure through non-existence may in fact be "preferable" to the non-zero probability of subjecting another life to both pain and pleasure through existence, especially in a world that's inexorably heading in the direction that this one is going in.

I'll address this part because the above goes without saying...
First of all "non-existence" has neither pleasure nor pain, as it is non-existent"   Furthermore, you fail to reason the question of "is it better to love and lost, or to never have loved at all"  This simple question is not one for you to answer, nor do you hold the answer to this question, as many people would testify to wanting either side.   You seem to be knowledgeable  of which side of the fence is greener, which is why I originally said "Thanos 2.0". 

The most important part of this conversation is this:  The path that you are on, is not the same path that everyone else is on, and as such, you are not, nor should you be, the arbiter of what constitutes our "direction" in which we are heading, nor the direction in which we should head.  
 

get a dog to help you get a life partner, and be ok with doing so.  Just don't be deceptive in your attempts at doing so.   

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

8 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said:

Furthermore, you fail to reason the question of "is it better to love and lost, or to never have loved at all"  This simple question is not one for you to answer, nor do you hold the answer to this question

The answer to that question is dependent on the evaluation of the benefits/detriments of the physiological and psychological impacts of that particular bio-chemical reaction to external stimuli.  Based on my observations of a rather limited sample size, I'd say it's definitely "better" to have never loved at all.  It's probably preferable to aim for "compatibility" rather than "love".

[Boyle5150]

1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said:

The answer to that question is dependent on the evaluation of the benefits/detriments of the physiological and psychological impacts of that particular bio-chemical reaction to external stimuli.  Based on my observations of a rather limited sample size, I'd say it's definitely "better" to have never loved at all.

And  you should realize that your observation does not constitute the observation of others.  You do not hold the beliefs of what is optimal to well being in your observational experiences, Thanos.  But thanks for your concerned efforts. 

 

[Boyle5150]

Also, I am a horrible human who hasn't seen End Game, so if any of you fucks spoil it, I will find you and I will show you why it is better to never have said anything at all.

 

[Jason]

So living alone causes liberalism?

 

Spoiler

 

[Remarkableriots]

I did have a group of friends that got together to watch movies but they moved away. Most of my local friends have started families so i don't see friends often anymore. I would like to have a pet but my studio apartment is too small and i couldn't afford anything bigger. 

[johnny]

If it wasn’t for college I wouldn’t even have friends. I haven’t hung out with coworkers since I was 19. 

[Boyle5150]

all of these posts confirms the op

[CastlevaniaNut18]

Other than a few casual interactions on FB, I don't talk to anyone from high school or college. I've never had much success maintaining friendships. I hang out with people, then once graduation happens or we move on to new jobs, we kinda go our separate ways. I've hung out with a small handful of coworkers from my previous job and there's one I text with fairly regularly, but that's all. I hang out with current coworkers and one who recently left, but I'll be surprised if we maintain friendships years from now.

 

I have my husband and my dog, though, so that helps a lot and I'm never particularly lonely. And I have become more sociable in recent years, though I'm still an introvert.

[Spork3245]

Fuck people.

Spoiler

Am I being rhetorical or literal?

Spoiler

I’ll never tell

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Keyser_Soze]

I never used to be very outgoing. But then I became a security guard and then I was forced to talk to people, guests, homeless people and guys who want to "kill" me. So it's made it somewhat easier to engage with normal people.

[Boyle5150]

I just got a dog, and now everything else has fallen into place.  

[Keyser_Soze]

1 hour ago, Boyle5150 said:

I just got a dog, and now everything else has fallen into place.  

 

Is it a girl dog? If so you can kill two birds with one stone.

[Remarkableriots]

1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

Is it a girl dog? If so you can kill two birds with one stone.

Why you assuming he likes girls? 

[Keyser_Soze]

5 hours ago, Remarkableriots said:

Why you assuming he likes girls? 

 

It's common knowledge that girl dogs clean houses better than boy dogs.

[Captain Pickle]

15 hours ago, SFLUFAN said:

I really fail to see how having a desire to increase the overall well-being of all and the position that I have articulated are in any way mutually exclusive.  If anything, my position significantly increases the chances for a greater "per capita well-being" even if it means the production of less "life".  That life that is created will have a far better opportunity for an overall marginally positive and/or significantly less negative existence.

 

And quite honestly, if my position means that life doesn't continue - so what?  It's really not that big of a deal.

I'm gonna have to go with Boyle on this one.  

 

Live long and prosper!

[Captain Pickle]

9 hours ago, Boyle5150 said:

I just got a dog, and now everything else has fallen into place.  

EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN PLACE BEFORE YOU GOT THE DOG, DAWG!

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

On the contrary, my "nihilitsic view" has been absolutely liberating and enabled me to enjoy my existence far more than when I did not hold it!

[Joe]

17 minutes ago, Man of Culture said:

For the vaginas of the board who might take issue with anything I've said, you may kindly suck my girthy cock, you weak-willed scum fucks.

 

@Zaku3

 

Regarding the procurement of an animal:

 

I am in complete agreement that one should not purchase an animal for the sole purpose of trying to get laid. To do so would be morally and ethically unconscionable and possibly even harmful to the animal in question. My previous statement was poorly worded and while I won't retract it or apologize for it, I'll offer some clarification:

 

If you are alone, a dog can make an excellent companion who can offer honest friendship and warmth for no greater cost than your own kindness, shelter and food. If you purchase an animal - preferably from a shelter or rescue, not a mill - make sure it's something you do with purposeful intent and not on a whim as you will now be responsible for the life of another who will rely on you for virtually every necessity. Having said that, pets can be useful in the dating/group seeking scene as an animal to bond over, to share stories about, to be a conversation starter with strangers. Just keep it in mind that "dating/group seeking aid" should be a low priority when it comes to animal ownership.

 

Regarding self-improvement:

 

Tangibly improving your physical body image will come with the positive side-effect of improving your general level of confidence, mood, stress levels, mental acuity. You'll find yourself becoming a more affable person as body confidence is one less thing you have to worry about in the grand scheme of human concerns during social interactions. People are attracted to others who exude confidence in themselves and everything they do or say. That being said, you would do well not to let any new found confidence get to your head as there is a fine line between confidence and hubris. Regularly lifting weights and adjusting your diet is a great way to apply a quick fix to your body image asap, but you should develop a plan with solid goals to work towards. Being concerned about your well-being has the additional effect of being a great point of conversation when looking for topics to engage other people with. People are hopelessly concerned with personal well-being even if they aren't the picture of it themselves. 

 

Here are a few links for you to read up on:

WHO "Physical Activity"

NHS "Physical Activity Guidelines for Adults"

FPH "Concepts of Mental and Social Wellbeing"

Preventative Medicine - Read pages 532-549 "Job Strain, Leisure Time, Physical Activity"

Beginners Guide for "Lifters"

 

Regarding your domicile:

 

I don't think anything else has to be said here, but to reiterate, make your place more inviting. If you're seeking female companionship, you need to adjust your home so that she doesn't feel like an intruder encroaching into uncharted enemy territory. Limit the things that you really enjoy to a single room (e.g. Cave/Office/Whatever you want to call it) and pattern the rest of your home as a place that is inviting to guests.

 

If, even after all this, you're struggling with social interactions you might be suffering from some kind of social disorder and may want to seek psychiatric counsel to get yourself sorted out. There is nothing wrong with that and hell, I even encourage it if that's what it takes to make you right as rain.

 

As far as @SFLUFAN take goes? He's deranged and has a nihilistic view on society, that's the sort of stance you take when you've given up on life and don't really care to enjoy it any further.

 

As far as @Anathema- goes, I fully agree with the following statements:

 

"You just have to make time for people. The close personal bonds come from having shared experiences which can only come with time."

 

I would also add to this that time isn't the only measure here, you have to make a conscious, deliberate effort to create and maintain those bonds

 

"If you really want friends there is certainly some kind of local event you can get into. Painting & drinks, trivia nights, d&d games and magic tournaments, tons of stuff. You obviously have to be willing to give up some personal time but you would with any friendship anyway .. And if you're not willing to give it up? Then lean in and recognize you're choosing to be alone and that's totally fine." 

 

Also great advice. However, while you're perfectly free to make the decision to live a solitary life, there is a difference between living a solitary life and frequently interacting with others you care about and living a solitary life where you have few, if any connections to the rest of humanity. The former is alright, the latter comes with myriad drawbacks of which I fear you might already be suffering.

 

 

 

Speaking of mental disorders, lol.

[Bloodporne]

I saw @Boyle5150 pop up and immediately knew this shit was gonna git gud

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chris-]

20 minutes ago, Man of Culture said:

For the vaginas of the board who might take issue with anything I've said, you may kindly suck my girthy cock, you weak-willed scum fucks.

 

@Zaku3

 

Regarding the procurement of an animal:

 

I am in complete agreement that one should not purchase an animal for the sole purpose of trying to get laid. To do so would be morally and ethically unconscionable and possibly even harmful to the animal in question. My previous statement was poorly worded and while I won't retract it or apologize for it, I'll offer some clarification:

 

If you are alone, a dog can make an excellent companion who can offer honest friendship and warmth for no greater cost than your own kindness, shelter and food. If you purchase an animal - preferably from a shelter or rescue, not a mill - make sure it's something you do with purposeful intent and not on a whim as you will now be responsible for the life of another who will rely on you for virtually every necessity. Having said that, pets can be useful in the dating/group seeking scene as an animal to bond over, to share stories about, to be a conversation starter with strangers. Just keep it in mind that "dating/group seeking aid" should be a low priority when it comes to animal ownership.

 

Regarding self-improvement:

 

Tangibly improving your physical body image will come with the positive side-effect of improving your general level of confidence, mood, stress levels, mental acuity. You'll find yourself becoming a more affable person as body confidence is one less thing you have to worry about in the grand scheme of human concerns during social interactions. People are attracted to others who exude confidence in themselves and everything they do or say. That being said, you would do well not to let any new found confidence get to your head as there is a fine line between confidence and hubris. Regularly lifting weights and adjusting your diet is a great way to apply a quick fix to your body image asap, but you should develop a plan with solid goals to work towards. Being concerned about your well-being has the additional effect of being a great point of conversation when looking for topics to engage other people with. People are hopelessly concerned with personal well-being even if they aren't the picture of it themselves. 

 

Here are a few links for you to read up on:

WHO "Physical Activity"

NHS "Physical Activity Guidelines for Adults"

FPH "Concepts of Mental and Social Wellbeing"

Preventative Medicine - Read pages 532-549 "Job Strain, Leisure Time, Physical Activity"

Beginners Guide for "Lifters"

 

Regarding your domicile:

 

I don't think anything else has to be said here, but to reiterate, make your place more inviting. If you're seeking female companionship, you need to adjust your home so that she doesn't feel like an intruder encroaching into uncharted enemy territory. Limit the things that you really enjoy to a single room (e.g. Cave/Office/Whatever you want to call it) and pattern the rest of your home as a place that is inviting to guests.

 

If, even after all this, you're struggling with social interactions you might be suffering from some kind of social disorder and may want to seek psychiatric counsel to get yourself sorted out. There is nothing wrong with that and hell, I even encourage it if that's what it takes to make you right as rain.

 

As far as @SFLUFAN take goes? He's deranged and has a nihilistic view on society, that's the sort of stance you take when you've given up on life and don't really care to enjoy it any further.

 

As far as @Anathema- goes, I fully agree with the following statements:

 

"You just have to make time for people. The close personal bonds come from having shared experiences which can only come with time."

 

I would also add to this that time isn't the only measure here, you have to make a conscious, deliberate effort to create and maintain those bonds

 

"If you really want friends there is certainly some kind of local event you can get into. Painting & drinks, trivia nights, d&d games and magic tournaments, tons of stuff. You obviously have to be willing to give up some personal time but you would with any friendship anyway .. And if you're not willing to give it up? Then lean in and recognize you're choosing to be alone and that's totally fine." 

 

Also great advice. However, while you're perfectly free to make the decision to live a solitary life, there is a difference between living a solitary life and frequently interacting with others you care about and living a solitary life where you have few, if any connections to the rest of humanity. The former is alright, the latter comes with myriad drawbacks of which I fear you might already be suffering.

 

 

 

Do you feel better now?

[Bloodporne]

I feel like this is the thread where I should announce that I'll be living alone in the near future as well because my marriage, and relationship of 10+ years, ceased to be some months back. 

 

At least this thread gives me hope that given enough time and repeated readings of Nietzsche, I can also elaborately trick myself into thoroughly enjoying being lonely for the rest of my life. 

 

 

 

Edit: At least I have cats...which I adopted for companionship. I'm hiding all the mirrors as I'm typing this. 

 

Edit #2: That facepalm is 100% directed towards my own horrible self. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

1 minute ago, Bloodporne said:

I feel like this is the thread where I should announce that I'll be living alone in the near future as well because my marriage, and relationship of 10+ years, ceased to be some months back. 

 

At least this thread gives me hope that given enough time and repeated readings of Nietzsche, I can also elaborately trick myself into thoroughly enjoying being lonely for the rest of my life. 

 

 

It's not about "enjoying" being lonely for the rest of your life, not at all.

 

It's about learning to "become what you are", even if that means realizing that being alone (which is not the same thing as being "lonely") is the optimal state.

[Bloodporne]

4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

It's not about "enjoying" being lonely for the rest of your life, not at all.

 

It's about learning to "become what you are", even if that means realizing that being alone (which is not the same thing as being "lonely") is the optimal state.

I know that's not what you're actually saying, I'm just being a smart-ass. And I firmly agree that being alone and lonely aren't nearly the same thing. 

 

As usual, I find some merit in most people's takes on this extremely complicated subject in this thread to be honest. I've also never lived completely by myself, always with women since I was 18, so this has been an unpleasant and weird experience. 

[RedSoxFan9]

Some real brain geniuses turned this thread into Jordan Peterson’s book

[RedSoxFan9]

 

D1P guide to becoming an anti-chaos alpha lobster with friends

[SuperSpreader]

what is happening

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

I personally don't mind Peterson's pop psychology techniques to reinforce the idea of "good habits" being part of something "beneficial", but that's as far as I'll go.

 

It sure as hell is no substitute for real therapy or gaining self-understanding as to whether a person is depressed because they genuinely want human social connections and are depressed because they cannot develop them, or they genuinely do NOT want those human social connections and are depressed because societal messaging tells them they are "broken" for it.

[Bloodporne]

Disclaimer: I have no idea who the fuck Jordan Peterson is before I'm considered one step closer to Alt-Right Nazi-ing since I assume he's Himmler incarnate if he's being mocked. 

 

I upvoted for the second part for the simple fact that no book or other person's opinion on your life should ever be considered the be-all and end-all answer.

[Guest]

This thread went places.

[Spork3245]

7 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

This thread went places.

 

The best places. Believe me. I’ve seen some places: these ones are the best. Out of all the places you can’t possibly get better.

[Bloodporne]

7 minutes ago, Man of Culture said:

 

He isn't alt-right, but he is a grifter passing along traditionalist/christian values as something that should be valued and brought back into importance.  He also has some funky notions on concepts like truth which are utterly ridiculous and anyone who has heard him talk about his truth concepts should have immediately wrote him off as nothing better than a conservative post modernist. Red Sox is comparing my post to Zaku to Peterson-esque nonsense. 

Should've stayed ignorant and left that one alone based on this description.  

6 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

This thread went places.

Don't they always? 

[RedSoxFan9]

unsolicited advice isn’t going to solve the US’s loneliness epidemic 

[Amazatron]

This thread makes me want to die alone.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

4 minutes ago, Amazatron said:

This thread makes me want to die alone.

I'm pretty sure that will be your fate -- along with the rest of us -- because ultimately we all die alone!