johnny Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: From this point onward, Colin Trevorrow's "Duel of the Fates" will be considered the canonical ending of the Sequel Trilogy on D1P. I have spoken. This is the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdeaOfEvil Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: From this point onward, Colin Trevorrow's "Duel of the Fates" will be considered the canonical ending of the Sequel Trilogy on D1P. I have spoken. May the Schwartz be with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 2:33 AM, skillzdadirecta said: Forgive me if this has been posted already. I have been listening to that channel's videos all day long and I am utterly hooked on them! I've decided to support his Patreon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I don't like the title of Duel of the Fates. That's already the name of the song playing when Jinn and Kenobi are fighting Darth Maul. "I love Duel of the Fates." "The song, or the movie?" Just needless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Brick said: I don't like the title of Duel of the Fates. That's already the name of the song playing when Jinn and Kenobi are fighting Darth Maul. "I love Duel of the Fates." "The song, or the movie?" Just needless. Nobody just randomly says they like that song. You’re usually talking about music when in comes up. plus we would shorten the movie title to DOTF when talking about it mostly. Or DTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Duel of the Fates is a fine name for a song but as a movie title it’s kinda corny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 I will say this - both the Trevorrow version(s) and the final Abrams film suffer from the same fundamental problem that seems to plague practically all big budget tentpole films in this day and age: Too. Much. Goddamned. Plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I will say this - both the Trevorrow version(s) and the final Abrams film suffer from the same fundamental problem that seems to plague practically all big budget tentpole films in this day and age: Too. Much. Goddamned. Plot. Think about how much plot A New Hope and Empire had... not much. And those films are damn near perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Duel of the Fates is the perfect name. Game, book, song, movie, the title of the next PPV fighting event. It's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Think about how much plot A New Hope and Empire had... not much. And those films are damn near perfect. I have become far more appreciative of "narratively lean" films like Dunkirk, Mad Max: Fury Road, Knives Out, and 1917 in my middle-age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I have become far more appreciative of "narratively lean" films like Dunkirk, Mad Max: Fury Road, Knives Out, and 1917 in my middle-age Those are often the best executed films especially when it comes to the action genre. One of the first things you're taught to do when preparing to write a script is to be able to sum up your plot in three sentences. Films that can't be summed up like that often don't work and probably shouldn't be films. That's why I'm all for Filmmakers moving to the television format if the story they want to tell is too big for the big screen. it's also why I think Tarantino's work has suffered in his later years... but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 When it comes to spectacle movies I find that too much plot detracts from the spectacle itself. Hell, you can even communicate so much just through visual story telling alone. It why I’ve come to really appreciate silent movies within the past few years. Film is a visual medium, so why not try to express as much through visuals and not rely purely on exposition? 28 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I have become far more appreciative of "narratively lean" films like Dunkirk, Mad Max: Fury Road, Knives Out, and 1917 in my middle-age I totally agree although I would say Knives Out is significantly heavier on the plot than your other examples. The other movies you listed, however, could easily be followed with the sound off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, sexy_shapiro said: When it comes to spectacle movies I find that too much plot detracts from the spectacle itself. Hell, you can even communicate so much just through visual story telling alone. It why I’ve come to really appreciate silent movies within the past few years. Film is a visual medium, so why not try to express as much through visuals and not rely purely on exposition? I totally agree although I would say Knives Out is significantly heavier on the plot than your other examples. The other movies you listed, however, could easily be followed with the sound off. Oh sure - Knives Out is definitely the most plot heavy of my examples, but it's not "plot burdened". You jave to pay attention, but it really doesn't require all that much mental juggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Think about how much plot A New Hope and Empire had... not much. And those films are damn near perfect. The Last Jedi is also quite similar for its relative "lack" of plot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, SFLUFAN said: The Last Jedi is also quite similar for its relative "lack" of plot as well. True... that's why it's number three in my ranking of Star Wars films Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 @SFLUFAN OMG THE THREAD TITLE CHANGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnny Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 LMAOOOO also has a little women spoiler if somebody cares about that Spoiler 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 https://www.cracked.com/article_27001_sorry-but-ignoring-rose-tico-kind-ruins-star-wars.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 TROS has settled at 52%, the lowest-rated Star Wars movie: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_rise_of_skywalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: TROS has settled at 52%, the lowest-rated Star Wars movie: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_rise_of_skywalker Is that after they adjusted TLJ for fanboy deflation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Didn't want to make a separate thread yet, but word today (from leaks) is that Obi-Wan Disney+ series may be cancelled. Some confusion still on how legit the source is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Didn't want to make a separate thread yet, but word today (from leaks) is that Obi-Wan Disney+ series may be cancelled. Some confusion still on how legit the source is. wtf why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, johnny said: wtf why No one knows yet. A couple of well-known people are confirming it on twitter, but also hinting it might only be delayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 This entire twitter thread has some GREAT concept art of Duel of the Fates: Some of my faves: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 That’s badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Man, that looks REAL good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Can't wait til this movie comes out. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Now we know why the book was delayed: Quick! Draw some stuff that actually made it into the movie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Let's be honest with ourselves though; Treverrow's script (which we haven't read, just heard about bits of it) only sounds better because of one simple thing; the movie doesn't exist. By never actually have been made, we can never fully judge it, and it's left to our imaginations as to what it could have been like, and because most of us were disappointed by Rise of Skywalker, this movie in our heads is going to seem better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Brick said: Let's be honest with ourselves though; Treverrow's script (which we haven't read, just heard about bits of it) only sounds better because of one simple thing; the movie doesn't exist. By never actually have been made, we can never fully judge it, and it's left to our imaginations as to what it could have been like, and because most of us were disappointed by Rise of Skywalker, this movie in our heads is going to seem better. The only Star Wars movies worse than this are the prequels. I will take my chances with shitty Trevorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 hours ago, johnny said: The only Star Wars movies worse than this are the prequels. Whoa whoa there, let's not say crazy things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 According to my google search, the obi-wan series is not cancelled. https://www.google.com/search?q=Obi-Wan+Disney%2B&oq=Obi-Wan+Disney%2B&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Brick said: Let's be honest with ourselves though; Treverrow's script (which we haven't read, just heard about bits of it) only sounds better because of one simple thing; the movie doesn't exist. By never actually have been made, we can never fully judge it, and it's left to our imaginations as to what it could have been like, and because most of us were disappointed by Rise of Skywalker, this movie in our heads is going to seem better. I was kind of thinking that last night. Also this would have been an early draft in comparison to the actual production. There could have been multiple re-writes until many of the things we liked never even got filmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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