PaladinSolo Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Imagine being distraught because you can't haul away some kids parents cause they didn't pay their taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Biden's ICE Is Deporting Hundreds of Haitians While the Country Is in Chaos WWW.VICE.COM ICE has been removing Haitians under Title 42, which gives the U.S. government the power to suspend entry of people or goods for public-health reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Centrist dem immigration policy is a dumpster fire too. It's just not as clearly based in racial and ethnic bigotry, so there is that I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Centrist dem immigration policy is a dumpster fire too. It's just not as clearly based in racial and ethnic bigotry, so there is that I guess... I think it is too early to judge Biden just yet. He has been good on DACA and reigning in ICE. A lot of these agencies act fairly independently and it takes time to fix things. Progressives just being whiny babies cause Biden hasn't met their crazy expectation a little over a month into his presidency. People need to calm the fuck down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: I think it is too early to judge Biden just yet. He has been good on DACA and reigning in ICE. A lot of these agencies act fairly independently and it takes time to fix things. Progressives just being whiny babies cause Biden hasn't met their crazy expectation a little over a month into his presidency. People need to calm the fuck down. Obama policy was trash, and Biden policy is Obama policy for the most part. Obama policy being better than Clinton/Bush/Trump isn’t saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Obama policy was trash, and Biden policy is Obama policy for the most part. Obama policy being better than Clinton/Bush/Trump isn’t saying much. Biden has already been more progressive than Obama on economic policy. Biden has pleasantly surprised me on some things so I'm just waiting and seeing. I think it is a mistake to believe Obama policy and Biden policy are one in the same especially with 4 years of Trump in between. I don't have anything emotionally invested in Biden. I do think he was the best choice to try to stabilize the country after the insanity of Trump but he is a placeholder. I'm perfectly fine trashing him on thing that he specifically ordered or not doing enough during his presidency. Shit like the article above takes time to fix. Progressives are just annoying sometimes especially with their "If it isn't exactly perfect it is a disaster" attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I’m just going off of what Biden has said and posted on his campaign site regarding immigration. It’s pretty much just a return to Obama era policy. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if it’s not. I’m also decidedly NOT a progressive, though I am whiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Even if it is Obama era immigration policy part deux, while it's not great is certainly better than Trump's white nationalist intentional pain policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Again, low bar. Myself being so strongly connected with undocumented immigrants, particularly from the southern border, I simply do not believe these policies are good enough. They aren't humane enough. And they make no sense in our modern economic context to boot. I did chuckle though when my right hand man in my construction business, who is an undocumented fellow from El Salvador, told me on inauguration day that "EVERYBODY is coming now" I was like, bruh, don't tell our conservative friends... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 The government has already stopped using terms like illegal alien. Mostly symbolic so far but I think it's a good sign for progressive policy. I think his immigration plan is about as liberal as you'd want short of open borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Quote The Biden administration is preparing to convert its immigrant family detention centers in South Texas into Ellis-Island-style rapid-processing hubs that will screen migrant parents and children with a goal of releasing them into the United States within 72 hours, according to Department of Homeland Security draft plans obtained by The Washington Post. The plans show the Biden administration is racing to absorb a growing number of migrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border amid shortages of bed space and personnel. Republicans and some Democrats fear that relaxing detention policies will exacerbate a surge that is already straining the Biden administration. Transforming family detention amounts to a wholesale repudiation not only of the Trump administration’s policies but also those of former president Obama, and presents a dramatically new vision of how to handle the fast-changing character of mass migration at the southern border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 "They never saw the sun": Lawyers describe overcrowded conditions for children in Border Patrol custody WWW.CBSNEWS.COM "Some of the boys said that conditions were so overcrowded that they had to take turns sleeping on the floor," a lawyer who interviewed the children told CBS News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jason said: "They never saw the sun": Lawyers describe overcrowded conditions for children in Border Patrol custody WWW.CBSNEWS.COM "Some of the boys said that conditions were so overcrowded that they had to take turns sleeping on the floor," a lawyer who interviewed the children told CBS News. I really hope this war crime is the next thing on Biden's agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Child migrants: First photos emerge of Biden-era detention centres WWW.BBC.COM Images show children huddled together on the floor under foil blankets at a facility in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 7:17 PM, Greatoneshere said: I really hope this war crime is the next thing on Biden's agenda. If by “on his agenda” you mean continuing to put kids in cages, it certainly is. It’s getting worse on scale as migrants are coming in much larger numbers because they believed Trump being gone would mean things going back to how they were before. Dems didn’t really care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 7:17 PM, Greatoneshere said: I really hope this war crime is the next thing on Biden's agenda. America can't commit war crimes, it can only make mistakes which it later regrets but does nothing to fix.* * Source - American history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, sblfilms said: If by “on his agenda” you mean continuing to put kids in cages, it certainly is. It’s getting worse on scale as migrants are coming in much larger numbers because they believed Trump being gone would mean things going back to how they were before. Dems didn’t really care Yep. Unrelated but I just thought that reuniting families of undocumented or unaccompanied people would be a good place to offer the J&J vaccine as outreach to a vulnerable community. Might get some bellyaching from the right but that will be forgotten here in a few months anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I don't think it's that people don't care, we just don't know who or what information to trust. Every single thing that happens is hailed as both the best thing to happen and a total catastrophe. This is so polarized and confusing and difficult to understand. Every thing that happens is spun and twisted to hell until we get to the point where nothing even feels right anymore. Is there a surge or is it bullshit? I've seen information affirming both. Did Biden screw everything up? Have numbers been trending this way for months? Did Obma keep kids in cages too? What's happening? Who knows. What is the truth? We don't know. There is so much confusion and misdirection and nonsense out there that this news story almost feels impossible to follow. Go find whatever truth you want, because it's all out there. This is politics in 2021 and make no mistake... this is by design. This is the system operating as designed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 People theoretically care in the sense that they don't like the idea of kids in cages. Even the average GOP voter is bothered by it, they just think it's their fault for coming here in the first place. But largely we do not care enough to demand actual change. America's terrible treatment of migrants at the southern border didn't begin or end with Trump, it's been this way pretty much my entire life. Now we just have better documentation of the things that we used to be able to shield our eyes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, sblfilms said: People theoretically care in the sense that they don't like the idea of kids in cages. Even the average GOP voter is bothered by it, they just think it's their fault for coming here in the first place. But largely we do not care enough to demand actual change. America's terrible treatment of migrants at the southern border didn't begin or end with Trump, it's been this way pretty much my entire life. Now we just have better documentation of the things that we used to be able to shield our eyes from. The Deportation Machine PRESS.PRINCETON.EDU The unknown history of deportation and of the fear that shapes immigrants' lives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I think a lot of people on the right don't care and want people in cages. Their entire political stance on this issue seems to be to dehumanize and villainize these people. My question really is this... I know that we can't simply put up a sign that says, hey, everyone come on in! But at the same time, is this really that big of a problem? We're the wealthiest country in the world with more space than we know what to do with. Surely we can handle some immigrants. I don't know. I know this is a tricky problem, but step one should be compassion and treating people coming over as victims instead of criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 People can grow their own weed but buying is it so much easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: Even if they make all gun sales illegal it's not going to stop people from printing guns that will continue to be easier to do. 7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: People can grow their own weed but buying is it so much easier What does this have to do with concentration camps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: People can grow their own weed but buying is it so much easier People can cook their own food but buying takeout is so much easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 8 hours ago, sblfilms said: If by “on his agenda” you mean continuing to put kids in cages, it certainly is. It’s getting worse on scale as migrants are coming in much larger numbers because they believed Trump being gone would mean things going back to how they were before. Dems didn’t really care Yeah I'm really sad to see the needle hasn't moved on this yet. I'm hoping it does but Biden seems to be very centrist on this issue particularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah I'm really sad to see the needle hasn't moved on this yet. I'm hoping it does but Biden seems to be very centrist on this issue particularly. It's only been 3 months, I'd like to be optimistic and say this is on a list of things to be improved. Maybe concentrating on vaccinating the American people was a priority focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Abolish ICE. There is no fixing that mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Wasn't sure where this fit, but this seems as good a place as any for previous atrocities/crimes: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Ouch, but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Wasn't sure where this fit, but this seems as good a place as any for previous atrocities/crimes: Like a sitcom scene where a husband keeps admitting shit he did because his wife said "we need to talk" and he won't stop guessing what he is in trouble for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 3/1/2021 at 9:40 PM, sblfilms said: I’m just going off of what Biden has said and posted on his campaign site regarding immigration. It’s pretty much just a return to Obama era policy. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if it’s not. I’m also decidedly NOT a progressive, though I am whiny You're so progressive you're basically Flo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: You're so progressive you're basically Flo ***inhales deeply*** BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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