SaysWho? Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Is Sasse goes off the party line..? I won't get my hopes up lol. What is he saying, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just now, SaysWho? said: I won't get my hopes up lol. What is he saying, anyway? He basically accused Manafort of being a Russian plant in the Trump campaign and asking if that's illegal (Barr couldn't answer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I don't think their "independence" is substantial enough. Some are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate and can therefore be terminated by the President. Other IGs are designated by their Agency chiefs and can be terminated by that Agency head. This role should belong jointly to Congress and the Judiciary with zero involvement by the Executive. So let's say we do this right now. Do you think this SCOTUS would pick a fair IG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: It's from goddamned Clickhole. You can tell it's fake because nothing is misspelled and it clearly and concisely conveys an easily understood message. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jwheel86 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jason said: So let's say we do this right now. Do you think this SCOTUS would pick a fair IG? I would favor a staggered term committee, you're otherwise more likely to have a Ken Starr than a Robert Mueller. 9 members, staggered 10 years terms each, selected by the Gang of Eight (Judiciary Committees leadership instead of Intelligence Committees) and confirmed by the SCOTUS. Failure to fill a seat within 30 days will result in a total shut down of the Executive Branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: I would favor a staggered term committee, you're otherwise more likely to have a Ken Starr than a Robert Mueller. 9 members, staggered 10 years terms each, selected by the Gang of Eight (Judiciary Committees leadership instead of Intelligence Committees) and confirmed by the SCOTUS. Failure to fill a seat within 30 days will result in a total shut down of the Executive Branch. Sounds to me like the GOP would just intentionally sabotage the process any time a Democrat was president, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Sounds to me like the GOP would just intentionally sabotage the process any time a Democrat was president, then. I define a total shut down as no military, Social Security, Medicare, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: I define a total shut down as no military, Social Security, Medicare, etc. "Look what the Dems did!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: In addition, there should also be an executive and legislative IG, and an executive and judicial IG. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Correct - the IG responsible for investigating a particular branch should be jointly controlled by the other two branches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: Correct - the IG responsible for investigating a particular branch should be jointly controlled by the other two branches. This I agree with. I don't think it should be possible for any two branches to be able to shut down the third branch by via an intentional bad-faith failure to staff an IG office, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'll admit that I've checked out of all of this because this whole debacle has really shown me what an absolute JOKE our government and political process is, but are people really surprised that Bill Barr did what he did with the Mueller report given everything we knew about him before he got the job? He's doing exactly what he was hired to do. Thing is that enough people are required to feign surprise because they're so heavily committed to overlooking the tremendously deep and obvious bad faith of conservatives. "Both sides" is a curse that has afflicted the chattering class for decades and the bad faith warriors have obviously turned it into a weapon. Now the both siders are stuck because their whole thing was appearing aloof and wise; admitting that they continually reward the bad faith of only one political party would be too much for their perceived reputation to bear so they keep pretending everything is normal instead of what it very obviously is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Arrest that man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, Jason said: Nadler’s priority seems to be getting the unredacted Mueller Report, rather than issuing a subpoena for Barr to testify. Seems misguided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 conservative dems should be purged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: LOL! No shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 God they're such children. Who else is he supposed to complain about his boss' summary if not his boss? What a lame excuse to try and dogpile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 They'd never say it to his face, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Jerry Nadler, is threatening to hold Barr in contempt of Congress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Jerry Nadler, is threatening to hold Barr in contempt of Congress. and nothing will come of it because nothing matters anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Man the GOP is bonkers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Man the GOP is bonkers... I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I see. Yes, I'd say the GOP is giving us a very clear look at their own psyche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jason said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jason said: So he wants to use executive privilege to force the Mueller report to be viewed in full? The same one that he's been screaming about being a witch hunt for years? ...what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: So he wants to use executive privilege to force the Mueller report to be viewed in full? The same one that he's been screaming about being a witch hunt for years? ...what? It's from a year ago today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jason said: It's from a year ago today. Never mind, derp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Barr is chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Pelosi accuses Barr of criminal lying. DOJ says that's reckless. Pelosi straight-up says Barr lied to Congress and committed a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Pardon in 3... 2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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