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Update: France/Spain/Belgium pour cold water on May's proposal of "no-deal" Brexit extension to June 30 without "significant" new British proposal


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6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

The current situation is that the Prime Minister who wants to remain but leads a party that wants to leave is negotiating with the Opposition Leader who wants to leave but leads a party that wants to remain for an agreement that is sure to please absolutely no one.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

 

So the options before the UK are:

  1. No Deal (default option April 12th)
  2. May's Deal (which would need Labour since the Conservative Brexiteers now have a hard on for No Deal thanks to France, Spain, and Belgium)
  3. New plan (which Parliament can't agree on so May's only option would be a General Election)
  4. Revoke Article 50

Bets? 

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22 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

 

So the options before the UK are:

  1. No Deal (default option April 12th)
  2. May's Deal (which would need Labour since the Conservative Brexiteers now have a hard on for No Deal thanks to France, Spain, and Belgium)
  3. New plan (which Parliament can't agree on so May's only option would be a General Election)
  4. Revoke Article 50

Bets? 

1 gets my vote.

 

Just a week to go!

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33 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

1 gets my vote.

 

Just a week to go!

The only way May's Deal or another plan have a chance in hell is if May puts bullet in No Deal or Revoke. If she says No Deal or May Deal, she might get enough Labour votes, likewise if she tells her party May Deal or Revoke, the Brexiteers might come along. She can't keep leaving all options open. 

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why the FUCK doesn't May just


Call another referendum. Have the options be:

 

May's deal

No Brexit

 

If the deal side wins. Boom she's got a mandate and her party has to support it. If it fails, boom. Brexit mandate no longer exists and she can revoke article 50. It's simple. 

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Just now, SilentWorld said:

why the FUCK doesn't May just


Call another referendum. Have the options be:

 

May's deal

No Brexit

 

If the deal side wins. Boom she's got a mandate and her party has to support it. If it fails, boom. Brexit mandate no longer exists and she can revoke article 50. It's simple. 

She can't call for referendum on her own - that requires a parliamentary vote.

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3 hours ago, SilentWorld said:

Ok, that makes sense but... 

 

Has she even tried that route? Is it something parliament would emphatically not support? 

Parliament has voted on 12 different options, including a People's Vote, every option failed to get a majority. The only thing that's gotten a majority are extension requests and non binding resolutions that No Deal is bad.

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11 hours ago, Jwheel86 said:

Parliament has voted on 12 different options, including a People's Vote, every option failed to get a majority. The only thing that's gotten a majority are extension requests and non binding resolutions that No Deal is bad.

 

Yeah, it would kind of being like your dad saying you can't have a dog because it costs too much money so you say, "Well alright, then can I have a horse?".

 

A May Deal vs. Stay is just a Stay Referendum with a very thin layer of lipstick on it. And a second referendum has always been one of the most unpopular options because obviously all the Leavers are going to be against it, along with a fair number who didn't initially support leaving, but think the will of the people should be respected.

 

At least, that's my understanding of it.

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