SaysWho? Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/paul-manafort-sentencing-former-trump-campaign-chairman-in-court-live-updates-2019-03-07/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Th guideline was 15 to 27 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yeah, hes getting off easy, that lady that accidentally voted got more time than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Weak ass judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Totally clears the President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Wow, clear message sent! Corruption is just part of the deal and you should feel free to give it a spin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Judge Ellis states Manafort lived an "otherwise blameless life"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 I totally get the disappointment. This stuff is part of the rigged system that trump ran against. I just love that he's going to prison and Trump gets another bad news cycle. Yymv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I mean 4 years is fine... But he'll be out in 1, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Th guideline was 15 to 27 years... 19-25 if I recall correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I mean 4 years is fine... But he'll be out in 1, right? Isn't he going in for sentencing in a separate case and is being investigated by NY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: Isn't he going in for sentencing in a separate case and is being investigated by NY? Yes, where he can face max 10 years. Some are predicting that that judge will throw the book at him, especially if she makes the sentence consecutive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 So a chance for 14? Not long enough but maybe enough for him to die in prison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Fuck Ellis. This is NOT what I anticipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Seems almost like a sentence designed to spook him into cooperating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, CayceG said: Fuck Ellis. This is NOT what I anticipated. 6 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Seems almost like a sentence designed to spook him into cooperating. I would lean more on the "fuck Ellis" side of things. This is the judge that caused the right wing to cum for a news cycle or two when he basically said to prosecutors, "The only reason you're coming after Manafort is because you want Trump.". And even if you were inclined(as some reasonable people were) to give him the benefit of the doubt that he is just a no nonsense, plain spoken judge also went on to say such prejudicial things during the actual trial that he had to come back and apologize for it. This sentence seems really low, but I am open to further explanation on why Ellis might have done this. I hear places like SDNY were loading, but not cocking, charges against Manafort in case of a pardon. Might be time to do it regardless. Though, as others have said, I think Jackson is more likely to go hard on him(and perhap even more so now). 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: I mean 4 years is fine... But he'll be out in 1, right? No parole in federal prison. I believe the best you can do is get about 50 days knocked off per year. Fun fact that I found out in the context of this case. That is why sometimes you will hear a judge give someone "a year and a day". Anything less than a year and you can't get any time knocked off. If you get over a year, then you can. So a year and a day is potentially more merciful than, say, 11 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I’m not sure what you guys expected lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, johnny said: I’m not sure what you guys expected lmao No kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnny said: I’m not sure what you guys expected lmao Didn't Manafort’s legal team request a sentence of 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Maybe manafort got a appropriate sentence for his crimes and everyone else is getting fucked raw by the big dick of the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Maybe manafort got a appropriate sentence for his crimes and everyone else is getting fucked raw by the big dick of the law Could be a bit of both columns. Like the crack/cocaine distinction: IIRC, it was crack that got a higher sentence for people, right? And that's the one that minorities used at a greater frequency? The penalty was higher than the other, but in reality, both should have carried a smaller sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Seems almost like a sentence designed to spook him into cooperating. Na... the judge admonished the Prosecution that that is what they were gunning for. To get him to flip on the President. Trump may STILL pardon him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, osxmatt said: THIS. This is the real bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Finally you see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, johnny said: I’m not sure what you guys expected lmao This is less time than the defense requested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jason said: This is less time than the defense requested. I’m still not sure what you guys expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 If he was black he'd get 50 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 America is great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGLatinBoy Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Whats the difference between Manafort, and Cohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: If he was black he'd get 50 years. Wesley Snipes got 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 he's got a whole 'nother trial coming up y'all, damn lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 There was also a lot of redacted stuff in his case files so they may not be done with him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 OLO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Sounds fair compared to others who committed similar crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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