CitizenVectron Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/03/05/decade-after-first-person-was-cured-hiv-second-patient-is-long-term-remission/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.345262e35002 Tentatively cured (1.5 years remission) through stem-cell transplant. Same method as first person cured 10 years ago. Quote A London man has been in remission from HIV for a year and a half, without drugs, after receiving a stem cell transplant of virus-resistant cells — raising the prospect that he has become the second person to be cured of the disease. The London patient’s case, cautiously reported in the journal Nature as still too “premature” to be declared a cure, comes a decade after Timothy Brown, known in medical circles as the “Berlin patient” was cured by a similar stem cell transplant, galvanizing the field of HIV research and sparking the search for a cure. “I think this is really quite significant. It shows the Berlin patient was not just a one-off, that this is a rational approach in limited circumstances,” said Daniel Kuritzkes, chief of infectious diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, who was not involved in the study. “Nobody doubted the truth of the report with the Berlin patient, but it was one patient. And which of the many things that were done to him contributed to the apparent cure? It wasn’t clear this could be reproduced." Quote
silentbob Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Pretty fucking amazing news. You hope they can expand the study to more patients to see if it is a viable cure in a bigger group study. Listing 2 people is great, but you wonder how many this might not of worked on. Can’t read the story because I don’t have a subscription if my above inquiry was mentioned Quote
Jason Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 But if they cure the AIDS then what incentive is there to not be gay? Quote
Joe Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 The advances in HIV/AIDS treatment are beyond mindblowing and I feel like we dont talk about it enough. Quote
SilentWorld Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jose said: The advances in HIV/AIDS treatment are beyond mindblowing and I feel like we dont talk about it enough. Explain? It's been almost 40 years since we discovered the virus and we've managed to sort of possibly cure 2 people by sheer accident. Seems a little disappointing to me? Quote
Joe Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: Explain? It's been almost 40 years since we discovered the virus and we've managed to sort of possibly cure 2 people by sheer accident. Seems a little disappointing to me? Have you seen the reduction in deaths? It's staggering. Quote
SilentWorld Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Oh yeah good point I guess HIV is pretty controllable with antiretrovirals. Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jose said: Have you seen the reduction in deaths? It's staggering. This, it's a massive shift. I don't know the science behind it and how long it usually takes to make these strides for other things of this nature but remembering it as the hideous wildfire epidemic it was in my youth, it feels like a massive shift for sure. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bloodporne said: This, it's a massive shift. I don't know the science behind it and how long it usually takes to make these strides for other things of this nature but remembering it as the hideous wildfire epidemic it was in my youth, it feels like a massive shift for sure. HIV/AIDS pretty much shaped my whole teenage years and adult hood. Like it was my biggest fear growing up and I even made my thesis film about it. EDIT: On CNN a medical correspondent just said that this is a very risky procedure and is only effective in a narrow set of very specific cases. Quote
sexy_shapiro Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, SilentWorld said: Explain? It's been almost 40 years since we discovered the virus and we've managed to sort of possibly cure 2 people by sheer accident. Seems a little disappointing to me? There is now HIV preventive medication that is as effective as wearing a condom. Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: HIV/AIDS pretty much shaped my whole teenage years and adult hood. Like it was my biggest fear growing up and I even made my thesis film about it. EDIT: On CNN a medical correspondent just said that this is a very risky procedure and is only effective in a narrow set of very specific cases. Oh yeah. Especially growing up in a city, it felt like, and was, a plague. Then the movie Kids came out and totally fucked me up even though I was aware of it all already of course. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Oh yeah. Especially growing up in a city, it felt like, and was, a plague. Then the movie Kids came out and totally fucked me up even though I was aware of it all already of course. Yooooo! Kids fucked me up too! I remember seeing that movie for the first time in at a small theater in The Village. That movie was like my nightmare scenario for a BUNCH of reasons. Quote
Boyle5150 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Oh yeah. Especially growing up in a city, it felt like, and was, a plague. Then the movie Kids came out and totally fucked me up even though I was aware of it all already of course. OMG, that movie was super fucked up and so real. It was one of those movies (at the time) that I thought every teenager should have to watch. Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yooooo! Kids fucked me up too! I remember seeing that movie for the first time in at a small theater in The Village. That movie was like my nightmare scenario for a BUNCH of reasons. 5 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: OMG, that movie was super fucked up and so real. It was one of those movies (at the time) that I thought every teenager should have to watch. I told a friend once ages ago that I think Requiem For A Dream and Kids should be shown to all teenagers. The best anti-drug and anti-general-dickhead-behavior PSAs. Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Bloodporne said: I told a friend once ages ago that I think Requiem For A Dream and Kids should be shown to all teenagers. The best anti-drug and anti-general-dickhead-behavior PSAs. I actually made sure I showed Kids to my younger sister and stepbrother once they got to high school. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Kids is must watch, harrowing viewing. The ending is both perfect and absolutely disgusting. Harmony Korine is a genius, and all his films are almost as good. Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Funny thing is, Kids isn't even actually fucked up, just unflinchingly real feeling. I very easily could've seen tons of kids I grew up with make all those decisions, including me in some instances and it scared the shit out of me. Quote
Boyle5150 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Just now, Bloodporne said: Funny thing is, Kids isn't even actually fucked up, just unflinchingly real feeling. I very easily could've seen tons of kids I grew up with make all those decisions, including me in some instances and it scared the shit out of me. which is exactly what makes it so fucked up! Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 I saw Kids in maybe '98 in a midnight showing and then Requiem when it came out and I'm glad for both of them. I know several friends that actively dropped their shit life styles because of either movie. Requiem especially made me turn away from hanging with my druggie pals at the time, it hit me like a ton of bricks. Both of them felt like they were going "here, that's what you look like, enjoy" Quote
Greatoneshere Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Funny thing is, Kids isn't even actually fucked up, just unflinchingly real feeling. I very easily could've seen tons of kids I grew up with make all those decisions, including me in some instances and it scared the shit out of me. That's what makes it fucked up. It is very real, but something can be both real feeling and fucked up (see: Schindler's List, Beasts of No Nation, etc.). Quote
fuckle85 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yooooo! Kids fucked me up too! I remember seeing that movie for the first time in at a small theater in The Village. That movie was like my nightmare scenario for a BUNCH of reasons. Is...is this your way of saying you were hanging out with dudes like Tully and Casper back in the day? 2 Quote
fuckle85 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Kids is must watch, harrowing viewing. The ending is both perfect and absolutely disgusting. Harmony Korine is a genius, and all his films are almost as good. Indeed. When I think about how dumb I (and most teens on average, probably) was at that age and how much insight and unflinching ability to look at harsh aspects of life it takes to write a movie like that at such a young age I can't help but respect Korine, even if I'm not a fan of most of his work. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, fuckle85 said: Indeed. When I think about how dumb I (and most teens on average, probably) was at that age and how much insight and unflinching ability to look at life it takes to write a movie like that at such a young age I can't help but respect Korine, even if I'm not a fan of most of his work. Yeah, his first script for the film was written when he was 19 - clearly writing from experience. I knew kids like Tully and Casper growing up but obviously had the good sense to never associate with those crowds. Quote
Guest Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Larry Clark’s creepiness worked perfectly in his direction of Kids. It’s just plain creepy in everything else though Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Yeah, his first script for the film was written when he was 19 - clearly writing from experience. I knew kids like Tully and Casper growing up but obviously had the good sense to never associate with those crowds. I never had that good sense until I hit my mid-20's. I was a total shithead. Quote
Greatoneshere Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Bloodporne said: I never had that good sense until I hit my mid-20's. I was a total shithead. We all mature at different rates, and I was blessed with a really good education (so logic always prevented me from doing anything too stupid like unprotected sex, etc.), which helped despite my otherwise horrific and terrible upbringing. No worries bru, better late than never! Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said: We all mature at different rates, and I was blessed with a really good education (so logic always prevented me from doing anything too stupid like unprotected sex, etc.), which helped despite my otherwise horrific and terrible upbringing. No worries bru, better late than never! "My education was the streets...the streets man...................." Queue some corny shot of Ice-T in New Jack City. 1 Quote
Greatoneshere Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Larry Clark’s creepiness worked perfectly in his direction of Kids. It’s just plain creepy in everything else though Haha I like most of his other films (though they are creepy)! But Korine is the better writer and director (IMHO). Quote
Greatoneshere Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: "My education was the streets...the streets man...................." Queue some corny shot of Ice-T in New Jack City. New Jack City is awesome. Snipes for life. Quote
Bloodporne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: New Jack City is awesome. Snipes for life. Nothing beats Pookie's crack smoking flashbacks. I also love the "I didn't know white people smoked crack too" revelation scene. Comedy gold. Big L even had a funny line about that Quote
skillzdadirecta Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, fuckle85 said: Is...is this your way of saying you were hanging out with dudes like Tully and Casper back in the day? Lol not those guys perse... I wasn't part of that whole New York Skateboarder culture that the movie took place in. But I knew guys like that and the attitudes weren't that different amongst teenagers at the time. Quote
Boyle5150 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 54 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: We all mature at different rates, and I was blessed with a really good education (so logic always prevented me from doing anything too stupid like unprotected sex, etc.), which helped despite my otherwise horrific and terrible upbringing. No worries bru, better late than never! I'm sure my time is near... Quote
Brick Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Jason said: But if they cure the AIDS then what incentive is there to not be gay? Allow me to bend over and spread my cheeks for you, Jason. Quote
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