TwinIon Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 The North Carolina State Board of Elections has order a new election for the 9th district after a months long investigation into ballot tampering. The board was unanimous in voting shortly after GOP candidate Mark Harris (who had "won" the contested election) said that he "misspoke under oath" and then called for a new election. That shocking twist came after incredible testimony yesterday from Harris' son John. John Harris, a federal prosecutor in N.C., testified that he had warned his father over the phone and via email that he believed political operative Leslie McCrae Dowless (who his dad had hired) had broken the law in a previous election. John Harris informed his father that tampering with absentee ballots was a felony, and he believed his father and Dowless could face criminal charges if the same thing occurred in this election. This is in stark contrast to what Mark Harris had previously said, when he told reporters that he was unaware of any red flags associated with Dowless' tactics. It's unclear to me what, if any, further legal action will be taken against Dowless or Mark Harris. It certainly seems like Dowless broke the law on behalf of Harris and that Harris was, or should have been, aware of it. It seems like at least Harris lied during the investigation. I hope that a new election doesn't mean that they just get off. Unlike the scaremongering the GOP is always conjuring, this is real life election fraud, and it should be punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, TwinIon said: It's unclear to me what, if any, further legal action will be taken against Dowless or Mark Harris. It certainly seems like Dowless broke the law on behalf of Harris and that Harris was, or should have been, aware of it. It seems like at least Harris lied during the investigation. I hope that a new election doesn't mean that they just get off. Unlike the scaremongering the GOP is always conjuring, this is real life election fraud, and it should be punished. One would assume they will at least lose the next election campaign. They literally only "won" by 905 votes. This has to change at least that many minds about the guy if he is allowed to run again. Then again this is the age of Trump... If they do get off with just a slap on the wrist it should definitely shut up the North Carolina GOP the next time they talk about "voter fraud". It probably wont though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, Link200 said: One would assume they will at least lose the next election campaign. They literally only "won" by 905 votes. This has to change at least that many minds about the guy if he is allowed to run again. Then again this is the age of Trump... If they do get off with just a slap on the wrist it should definitely shut up the North Carolina GOP the next time they talk about "voter fraud". It probably wont though. The biggest issue I can see is turnout during a big wave election vs a random redo election with no other races on the ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Jason said: The biggest issue I can see is turnout during a big wave election vs a random redo election with no other races on the ballot. I guess we'll see if this kind of sleaze hurts with independents and fires up Democrats in the district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Guys, i don't think Fox News is a reliable source for News. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/21/federal-election-will-be-rerun-because-fraud-republicans-arent-talking-about-it-much/?utm_term=.c6a3c744717a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 My son knows I'm a POS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Republicans are strangely quiet about this... I thought voter fraud was their issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Jason said: The biggest issue I can see is turnout during a big wave election vs a random redo election with no other races on the ballot. Interestingly enough these random elections have had a strong democratic turnout over the last couple of years. Not sure if it will continue with the house firmly in Democratic hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Mitch McConnell Says Democrats Are To Blame For Election Fraud That Benefited GOP Quote “We were hit with left-wing talking points insisting that voter fraud wasn’t real. Never happens, they said. Well, that fraud just didn’t happen, that modest efforts to ensure that voters who are who they say they are and are voting in the proper place were really some sinister right-wing plot to prevent people from voting,” McConnell said. “So now, as you might expect, now that an incident of very real voter fraud has become national news and the Republican candidate seems ― seems ― to have benefited, these long-standing Democratic talking points have been really quiet.” Michael Bitzer, a political science professor at Catawba College in North Carolina who brought some of the irregularities in the state to light, said the kind of fraud that occurred in North Carolina was different from what Republicans have been focused on for years. He said McConnell was conflating voter fraud ― illegal voters trying to manipulate the outcome of an election ― with a case of ballot fraud where someone tried to manipulate the votes of legitimate voters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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