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27 minutes ago, legend said:

My wife and I enjoyed it :) Are there plans for a second season, because it really doesn't seem like it needs one.

Polygon interviewed the show's co-creator

 

There’s chatter about a second season, and I don’t know if you necessarily already have the plans, but I wanted to ask what the idea for it was because it seems like the first season is such a perfect unit.

 

That was always our goal actually, was that the first season felt very complete. We pitched it as a three-season arc. I mean, I wouldn’t say a three-season arc; we pitched the show with three seasons when we pitched it to Netflix. That being said, the first season was always supposed to feel like what you just said. That was always the intention, even though of course things changed along the way, and the rules of it changed and some of the characters changed and morphed into other things.

 

Ultimately, that was always the point, was that it would feel like a complete whole, and then in the second season this thing happens, and in the third season this thing happens. I unfortunately cannot tell you any of those things, and that’s not to be cagey, but I do have two other brilliant collaborators that I work with, and of course would not want to speak out of turn.

 

That’ll just be up to Netflix and the viewers, and Amy and Natasha and whatever happens next.

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Finished this one up over the weekend and I enjoyed it. The character of Alan was a fun wrinkle that I didn't see coming.

 

I'm still digesting it a bit, but I'm curious to hear opinions on the ending. (Spoilers, obviously)

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Is it fair to say that in the end, both Nadia and Alan have an important self realization, and that's what allows them to break out of their loops? That's fine. Very on brand for something with the recurring day premise. I kinda liked that they split the timeline in the end, and they were now in separate universes. What did fall a bit flat for me, was the result of that. She breaks out of her loop and convinces him not to commit suicide. He breaks out of his loop in order to prevent her from having a one night stand that she didn't really regret in the first place? I suppose he also saves her from a car, but that wasn't a decision that she made, just happenstance.

 

So I felt like both versions of Alan ended up better off. The version that remembered the loop was obviously changed for the better, and the version that didn't was saved by Nadia.

 

With Nadia, the version that remembered the loop had become more selfless, but the version that didn't decided not to screw on particular bad dude? Did that feel unsatisfying to anyone else?

 

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I thought it was good but I'll be honest and admit I mainly kept watching for Natasha Lyonne's character's antics and dialog. 

 

The end left me surprisingly cold and I re-watched the final segment twice. Like I said, I liked it overall but if it were for Lyonne, I'm not sure I would've finished it. 

 

@skillzdadirecta I actually thought it was parodying the "urban millenial" characters a bit but upon second thought, I think I just interpreted it that way because their behavior seems so absurd and over-the-top to someone like me who never associates with that crowd. 

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It was definitely parodying Urban Millennials overall for sure... that I didn't mind. I just thought Lyonne's performance was a tad  cartoony in some instances... again that could be me being overly critical with my editor/filmmaker hat on, but I STILL enjoyed the series and HIGHLY recommend it to anyone who will listen :p 

You're a New Yorker... didn't you think the whole "New Yawker" thing she was doing was a little over the top?

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10 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

It was definitely parodying Urban Millennials overall for sure... that I didn't mind. I just thought Lyonne's performance was a tad  cartoony in some instances... again that could be me being overly critical with my editor/filmmaker hat on, but I STILL enjoyed the series and HIGHLY recommend it to anyone who will listen :p 

You're a New Yorker... didn't you think the whole "New Yawker" thing she was doing was a little over the top?

Not for her implied background honestly. I lived in Brighton Beach when I first came here and I kind of found her endearing imaging she could've come from there being of poor Russian descent. 

 

But I definitely see where you're coming from. I know a lot of outsized characters like that but for her generation it's probably less realistic honestly. That's mainly old timers from the block etc. 

 

That being said, the character is basically her in terms of background from what I've read in the past. 

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Just now, Bloodporne said:

Not for her implied background honestly. I lived in Brighton Beach when I first came here and I kind of found her endearing imaging she could've come from there being of poor Russian descent. 

 

But I definitely see where you're coming from. I know a lot of outsized characters like that but for her generation it's probably less realistic honestly. That's mainly old timers from the block etc. 

 

That being said, the character is basically her in terms of background from what I've read in the past. 

 

THAT was the disconnect for me... I knew and worked with PLENTY of folks like that when I went to school and lived in NYC. They were just a couple of decades older than me so that's why it felt like she was doing an impersonation of her bubbie or something :p

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15 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 

THAT was the disconnect for me... I knew and worked with PLENTY of folks like that when I went to school and lived in NYC. They were just a couple of decades older than me so that's why it felt like she was doing an impersonation of her bubbie or something :p

Ironically, Chloe Sevigny didn't even attempt to put on an accent or anything to match her's while playing her mother. I know it's incredibly nitpicky but that part annoyed me weirdly enough haha...

 

And you're right, yeah, it's highly unlikely for her age range to sound like she's in '70's Brooklyn. 

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Very clever take on the genre. I enjoyed it immensely. I do think there is something to @TwinIon‘s issue with the conclusion, but I think both Nadia and Alan were being saved from their self-destructive tendencies. Alan was obviously headed towards a more abrupt ending, but nothing good was going to result from living her life as she had been.

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I just binged this today. I'm glad I never watched that trailer! They gave away one of the best twists right at the end! 

 

I really enjoyed it. I love these type of movies/shows and appreciated their take on it. I was a little confused about 3/4 of the way through as to the why of everything but I let that go and really enjoyed the ending after giving it a little thought. 

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Yeah, this show was great. I also loved it.

 

I agree that the highlight was Natasha Lyonne, who chewed up every scene she was in, and she was in like 90% of them...

 

I liked that it didn't waste any time. It was tight and focused. It was more like a movie chopped up into 30 minute chunks than a TV show.

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