Nokra Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: "And I accepted the first one, and I'm proud of what we've accomplished because people learned during that shutdown all about the problems coming in from the southern border," Trump added. "I accept it — I've always accepted it. But this one, I would never accept it if it happens, but I don't think it's going to happen. But this would be totally on the Democrats." What does any of this mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nokra said: What does any of this mean? Quote Progress is being made significant. Now. What did happen? Is the Democrats were being hit really hard on the concept of releasing criminals into our society? That has not been playing well, so maybe progress is made, maybe not, but I had a choice. I could have stayed out there. Listen. I could have come out to the people of El Paso and Texas. I chose I chose so so we probably have some good news, but who knows us will learn we're setting the stage folks, you know what it's called right. It's called we're setting the stage we're setting the table we're doing whatever we have to do the walls being built. It will continue it's going at a rapid pace, the Rio Grande, it's happening, go check it out. How many strokes did he have last night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 trump can accept a deal on deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 NUTS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodimus Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Can't they just tell him is is 5 billion for the wall and have nothing for it in the bill. Trump doesn't read any of these. After he signs it then tell him the truth after he tells everyone he got what he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 So he wants 23 billion now? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Shart of the deal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: So he wants 23 billion now? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL For "border security". Which is what he was offered a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: For "border security". Which is what he was offered a year ago. We're getting another shutdown, aren't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: For "border security". Which is what he was offered a year ago. Sometimes you have to let them cry themselves out before they'll take the bottle they wanted all along. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 JUST IN: President Trump is likely to sign a bipartisan agreement to keep the government open and avoid another partial shutdown, 3 sources familiar with the president’s thinking tell NBC News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 He's still going to try to declare a national emergency to get his wall, isn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 So how long does this bipartisan agreement, if signed by Trump, keep this 25% of the government open for? Recently they've only been punting government appropriations bills to just last a few months like they don't want to fund the government for longer at any given time and it's getting frustrating. Just fund the government, all of it, for a full year at least so we can move on from a government shutdown conversation every few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: So how long does this bipartisan agreement, if signed by Trump, keep this 25% of the government open for? Recently they've only been punting government appropriations bills to just last a few months like they don't want to fund the government for longer at any given time and it's getting frustrating. Just fund the government, all of it, for a full year at least so we can move on from a government shutdown conversation every few months. I THINK this is a year. THINK. Not 100%. Don't hold me to it. Fuck the Patriots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: I THINK this is a year. THINK. Not 100%. Don't hold me to it. Fuck the Patriots. A year for this 25% of the government, or was the other 75% they funded late last year meant to last a year too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: He's still going to try to declare a national emergency to get his wall, isn't he? I'm 90% sure at this point he's just going to claim the wall is being built, then shout down any news reports the contrary. He's not going to get it from Congress, even the GOP doesn't want him declaring a national emergency, and time has already shown his base is a bunch of rubes who will eat up any narrative he puts out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chris- said: I'm 90% sure at this point he's just going to claim the wall is being built, then shout down any news reports the contrary. He's not going to get it from Congress, even the GOP doesn't want him declaring a national emergency, and time has already shown his base is a bunch of rubes who will eat up any narrative he puts out there. He will absolutely turn the $1.375 billion he's getting in border security which includes some additional fencing (note, this is less than the $1.6 billion Democrats were offering him in December 2018) into "the wall is being built" messaging for sure. He will just add to that: "we're pulling money from all kinds of other sources, an additional $25 billion to make the rest of the wall" (a total lie, of course) and that will become the conversation. Democrats are going to have to counter program hard, which is not their strong suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Imagine using El Chapo's money for a wall when he brought all his drugs in through ports of entry, simply brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, PaladinSolo said: Imagine using El Chapo's money for a wall when he brought all his drugs in through ports of entry, simply brilliant! The kicker is El Chapo is famous for escaping prison by building a tunnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Trump to stiff contractors, who saw that coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 Trump Puts Best Face on Border Deal, as Aides Try to Assuage an Angry Right Quote Mr. Trump offered no acknowledgment on Wednesday that his pressure tactics had failed even as aides sought to minimize the damage by tamping down criticism on the right. One call was made to Lou Dobbs, a favorite of Mr. Trump’s whose Fox Business Network show he often tries to catch live. Another was placed to Sean Hannity, the Fox host who regularly talks with the president. The message: Mr. Trump deserved support because he still forced concessions that he would never have gotten without a five-week partial government shutdown. Even so, it was arguably the most punishing defeat Mr. Trump has experienced as president, and it left the White House scrounging for other ways to pay for a wall on the southwestern border and rethinking its approach to a Congress now partly controlled by Democrats. Quote “Only in Washington, D.C., can we start out with needing $25 billion for border security measures and expect applause at 1.37,” [Mark Meadows] said Tuesday on Fox News. “I mean, only in D.C. is that a winning deal.” Mr. Meadows and his allies were among those targeted by the White House in hopes of avoiding a more threatening conservative revolt. A meeting with members of his Freedom Caucus in the Oval Office was partly aimed at urging them to hold their fire in television interviews when talking about the bill, according to a person briefed on the effort. Quote At one point last year, the president and Democrats were close to a deal in which he would get all $25 billion for the wall in exchange for protections for 1.8 million young immigrants brought to the country illegally as children. But Mr. Trump ultimately turned away because he also wanted cuts to legal immigration that Democrats would not accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Trump to sign border deal averting shutdown, declare emergency in pursuit of wall funding, McConnell says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 National emergency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pikachu said: Trump to sign border deal averting shutdown, declare emergency in pursuit of wall funding, McConnell says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 McConnell is going full Trumptard it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Declaring a national emergency to trigger the libs and placate the base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: Declaring a national emergency to trigger the libs and placate the base. and will go nowhere most likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: McConnell is going full Trumptard it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I hope he gets his national emergency. It just sets the standard for a dem President to declare one for healthcare and fund medicare for all, and to declare a national emergency for gun control. Can’t wait to see the hypocrisy from republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: I hope he gets his national emergency. It just sets the standard for a dem President to declare one for healthcare and fund medicare for all, and to declare a national emergency for gun control. Can’t wait to see the hypocrisy from republicans. yup guns and climate here we go if the country doesnt fuck up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I hope he gets his national emergency. It just sets the standard for a dem President to declare one for healthcare and fund medicare for all, and to declare a national emergency for gun control. Can’t wait to see the hypocrisy from republicans. We've already seen it. “Obama is an imperial president! Too many executive orders! National emergency on DACA!” Presidential overreach only matters when Dems are in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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