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I’m so pissed I never took those world’s smallest violin lessons, I’d be playing it for these morons right now.

 

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NATION. OF. IDIOTS.

 

The sad part is they're blaming Trump... this is the G.O.P.'s tax policy. Trump just pushed it through.  The Republicans have been pushing for this bullshit for years before Trump.

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53 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

Can confirm:  My refund went down because of the SALT fuckery. 

 

mine did too but I paid significantly less through out the year because of the lowered brackets, I came out ahead when all is said and done. 

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1 hour ago, mclumber1 said:

Can confirm:  My refund went down because of the SALT fuckery. 

Mine went down too.  Though this year, I went through a job change and even worked out of state for a period.

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I will quote a MAGAhead on the closest we will ever get one of these cult members to admit they were wrong; President Trump isn't hurting the right people.

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12 hours ago, Chairslinger said:

I will quote a MAGAhead on the closest we will ever get one of these cult members to admit they were wrong; President Trump isn't hurting the right people.

 

Never forget, cruelty is the point.

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45 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

Dick'd to the tune of nearly 3,000.00 this year! Thanks Obama! 

Obviously your not white enough

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54 minutes ago, SimpleG said:

Obviously your not white enough

This is what I get for being the 10%, but not the 1%! 

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18 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

This is what I get for being the 10%, but not the 1%! 

 

You need to pull yourself up from your shitty bootstraps! 

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8 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

You need to pull yourself up from your shitty bootstraps! 

But I  wear slip on shoes in the office! :cry:

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I wear wellingtons.  I've been pulling myself up by my bootstraps for years now.  SUCK IT.

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2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

I wear wellingtons.  I've been pulling myself up by my bootstraps for years now.  SUCK IT.

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I do like a nice boot. I'm wearing some sweet ass black motorcycle boots as I type this. 

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20 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

I wear wellingtons.  I've been pulling myself up by my bootstraps for years now.  SUCK IT.

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I wear something very similar when I'm on the construction site, are those steel tipped? 

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3 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

I wear something very similar when I'm on the construction site, are those steel tipped? 

 

They better be, all the better to crush the proles with!

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48 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

I wear something very similar when I'm on the construction site, are those steel tipped? 

 

Mine are composite (plastic) toe instead of steel, because my company requires them to be super electrically safe.  

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Just now, mclumber1 said:

 

Mine are composite (plastic) toe instead of steel, because my company requires them to be super electrically safe.  

Ah, gotcha! Medium voltage work? 

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4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

Mine are composite (plastic) toe instead of steel, because my company requires them to be super electrically safe.  

 

Pffft. Then how are you supposed to get supposed to get supposed powers?

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16 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

Ah, gotcha! Medium voltage work? 

 

Yes.  I don't do any MV work myself, but I work in areas that have the potential for MV issues. 

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I was wondering if there was a thread in here on the tax return situation. I find it kind of sad and kind of hilarious and I'm going to write many words about it now because this is how I plan on releasing steam after a longstanding embargo of talking politics on any of my own social medias.

 

So! I'm not even going to "I told you so" GOP supporters on this, because, frankly, all working class people are in the same boat and we all got fucked by the new tax law. And that's me fully aware that tax refunds and total taxes paid are not the same thing. I'm just honestly surprised the Pols in Power, who only got into power thanks to their +12 Broadsword of Insincere Populism, didn't realize that the majority of Americans still think refunds = taxes.

 

When I read a year ago that they were planning on messing with IRS withholding tables to try and "fake" wage increases and create support for the tax package before the midterms, I couldn't help but think "Hah, rookie fucking mistake." Classic out-of-touch rich people error, thinking in terms of percentages and not real money, and not having anyone on staff to tell them how regular people view their finances. The GOP is perplexed that the average tax-payer isn't breaking down any TCJA increases to their paychecks, averaging it against health insurance increases and/or decreased deductions, projecting it over four fiscal quarters and then figuring out what the gross increase was before adding in whatever interest gains they prospectively could have gotten if they had invested that $1.50 a week in the private market, which the plan would technically allow them to do, rather than leaving it with a zero-interest IRS withholding account just to get back a year later? Seriously?? I'm bored by that sentence and I just wrote it!

I mean, does it make sense on paper? Arguably (could still debate/hate the finer shit-fuck points of the tax law, but just taking the perspective of GOP lawmakers). Do 75% of Americans care? Hell no, they only care about the number they see on the check of the one big financial windfall they get each year (remember, we're not talking about people who by-and-large receive stock dividends, or Christmas bonuses, or fat annual commission checks based on corporate profit).

 

It's the same attitude when Wilbur Ross said he doesn't understand why federal workers were on bread lines during the government shutdown instead of taking out a low-interest loan from a credit union and ask their grocery store to just front them Cheez-Its and diapers on an IOU. That's what someone says who has never lived paycheck to paycheck and doesn't understand how being broke works.
 

That said, while it may pale in comparison to the administration's other offenses, this is the kind of accessible flashpoint that actually can unite both sides of the middle class and hopefully convert more than a few voters. I say this as someone who came from a family of right-wingers who only ever voted that way because TAX CUTS, and nothing else. For a lot of Republican voters, tax cuts are the beginning and the end of the appeal, taking on almost mythical properties. And for many, that number is based on what they see in their refund each year. It's one of the few things that actually defies spin, in a way, because no politician can tell Jerry from Ohio that he has money he doesn't see. Dems actually have an opportunity here to get outraged with everyone who feels they got screwed (whether they did or not), and use it as the most tangible evidence to prove to them that they got conned by Ryan/McConnell et al.

 

Now we just get to see if they use it or fuck it up. [Edited for typos.]

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On 2/7/2019 at 10:05 AM, Mr.Vic20 said:

I wear something very similar when I'm on the construction site, are those steel tipped? 

Steel tips are for poor people. You gotta get a custom weave carbon fiber tip. Sure nobody can see the custom weave beneath the leather, but you’ll know. 

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18 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said:

Steel tips are for poor people. You gotta get a custom weave carbon fiber tip. Sure nobody can see the custom weave beneath the leather, but you’ll know. 

Hmm, I’ll take a look in a year or two when I hang my current pair up.

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1 hour ago, Tao 2.0 said:

I was wondering if there was a thread in here on the tax return situation. I find it kind of sad and kind of hilarious and I'm going to write many words about it now because this is how I plan on releasing steam after a longstanding embargo of talking politics on any of my own social medias.

 

So! I'm not even going to "I told you so" GOP supporters on this, because, frankly, all working class people are in the same boat and all got fucked by the new tax law. And that's me fully aware that tax refunds and total taxes paid are not the same thing. I'm just honestly surprised the Pols in Power, who only got into power thanks to their +12 Broadsword of Insincere Populism, didn't realize that the majority of Americans still think refunds = taxes.

 

When I read a year ago that they were planning on messing with IRS withholding tables to try and "fake" wage increases and create support for the tax package before the midterms, I couldn't help but laugh and think "Rookie fucking mistake." Classic out-of-touch rich people error, thinking in terms of percentages and not real money, and not having anyone on staff to tell them how regular people view their finances. The GOP is perplexed that the average tax-payer isn't breaking down any TCJA increases to their paychecks, averaging it against health insurance increases or decreased deductions, projecting it over four fiscal quarters and then figuring out what the gross increase was before adding in whatever interest gains they prospectively could have gotten if they had invested that $1.50 a week, which the plan would technically allowed them to do, rather than leaving it with the as zero-interest IRS withholding account just to get back a year later? Seriously?? I'm bored by that sentence and I just wrote it!

I mean Does it make sense on paper? Arguably (could still debate/hate the finer shit-fuck points of the tax law, but just taking the perspective of GOP lawmakers'). Do 75% of Americans care? Hell no, they only care about the number they see on the check of the one big financial windfall they get a year (remember, we're not talking about people who by-and-large receive stock dividends, or Christmas bonuses, or fat annual commission checks based on corporate profit).

 

It's the same attitude when Wilbur Ross said he doesn't understand why federal workers were on bread lines during the government shutdown instead of taking out a low-interest loan from a credit union and ask their grocery store to just front them Cheez-Its and diapers on an IOU. That's what someone says who has never lived paycheck to paycheck and doesn't understand how being broke works.
 

That said, while it may pale in comparison to the administration's other offenses, this is the kind of accessible flashpoint that actually can unite both sides of the middle class and hopefully convert more than a few voters. I say this as someone who came from a family of right-wingers who only ever voted that way because TAX CUTS, and nothing else. For a lot of Republican voters, tax cuts are the beginning and the end of the appeal, taking on almost mythical properties. And for many, that number is based on what they see in their refund each year. It's one of the few things that actually defies spin, in a way, because no politician can tell Jerry from Ohio that he has money he doesn't see. Dems actually have an opportunity here to get outraged with everyone who feels they got screwed, and use it as the most tangible evidence to prove to them that they got conned Ryan et al. Now we just get to see if they use it or fuck it up.

All of this.

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