Football This Edelman-Hall of Fame talk isn't happening if he isn't white.

[BuckFly 234]

 

Yep.  Sorry, I'm calling it.  I have mad respect for Nate B and Jason W and they do support it, but I am not buying it.

 

499 rec, for 5,390 yards and 30 TDs at 32 years old doesn't cut it, regardless of playoffs.  Especially not in this era.

[CastlevaniaNut18 3,403]

I love Edelman, but I would agree with you. 

[Kal-El814 4,772]

Pats hate aside, Edelman is not a HOF receiver right now. 

[Slug 1,411]

He's a Hall of Famer for his post-season work alone.

[BuckFly 234]

48 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I love Edelman, but I would agree with you. 

BTW, for the record.  I think he is great.

 

I think if you are developing a plan to stop the Pats you start with "Stop Edelman".

[RedSoxFan9 4,216]

He will be a hall of famer 

[Keyser_Soze 8,014]

He will be in the white hall of fame.

[BuckFly 234]

Man, Tim Brown had almost 1,100 grabs for almost 15,000 yards and 100 TDs and he still waited more than a decade to get in.

 

If Edelman ends up in a couple more years with 650 for 7,000 yards and 45 TDs how in the world can anyone put on a straight and face and say, "yep, great in playoffs, he's in!"

 

I even think the guy is great, but how do you leap frog a number of guys with that?

 

and please no references to NFL "dead ball" era guys, when you could molest receivers all you wanted.

[Keyser_Soze 8,014]

Just now, BuckFly said:

Man, Tim Brown had almost 1,100 grabs for almost 15,000 yards and 100 TDs and he still waited more than a decade to get in.

 

If Edelman ends up in a couple more years with 650 for 7,000 yards and 45 TDs how in the world can anyone put on a straight and face and say, "yep, great in playoffs, he's in!"

 

Black guy has to work doubly has hard as a white guy don't you know?

[TwinIon 1,654]

Edelman HOF talk doesn't happen if he's not catching passes from Tom Brady, which means playoffs and Superbowls. I honestly don't think there's much real chance he gets in.

[RedSoxFan9 4,216]

You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect the hall of fame voting process to make sense

[RedSoxFan9 4,216]

21 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

Edelman HOF talk doesn't happen if he's not catching passes from Tom Brady, which means playoffs and Superbowls. I honestly don't think there's much real chance he gets in.

 

Any QB could throw to Edelman since he’s always wide open

[Slug 1,411]

43 minutes ago, BuckFly said:

Man, Tim Brown had almost 1,100 grabs for almost 15,000 yards and 100 TDs and he still waited more than a decade to get in.

 

If Edelman ends up in a couple more years with 650 for 7,000 yards and 45 TDs how in the world can anyone put on a straight and face and say, "yep, great in playoffs, he's in!"

 

I even think the guy is great, but how do you leap frog a number of guys with that?

 

and please no references to NFL "dead ball" era guys, when you could molest receivers all you wanted.

 

39 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

Edelman HOF talk doesn't happen if he's not catching passes from Tom Brady, which means playoffs and Superbowls. I honestly don't think there's much real chance he gets in.

Playoffs and Super Bowls is all it takes.  He's one of the greatest post-season receivers of all time.  You can be average for your career in the regular season and be a hall of famer if you kill it in the playoffs, which he does.

[Keyser_Soze 8,014]

21 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said:

 

Any QB could throw to Edelman since he’s always wide open

 

But he needs Brady to encourage him to run up the field.

[Kal-El814 4,772]

21 hours ago, Slug said:

Playoffs and Super Bowls is all it takes.  He's one of the greatest post-season receivers of all time.  You can be average for your career in the regular season and be a hall of famer if you kill it in the playoffs, which he does.

It doesn’t work that way for receivers. QBs, yes, receivers, no.

 

There are 27 receivers from the modern era in the HOF currently. A few more will get in by the time Edelman is done and eligible. There’s no sane argument for Edelman being one of the top 30-35 receivers of all time.

 

21 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said:

You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect the hall of fame voting process to make sense

The NFL HOF voting doesn’t always make sense but it’s been fairly consistent. 

 

Hines Ward is gonna struggle to make it in the HOF if he makes it at all and Hines was more productive for longer than Edelman. Y’all don’t know what you’re talking about.

[Slug 1,411]

27 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

It doesn’t work that way for receivers. QBs, yes, receivers, no.

Lynn Swann says what?

[RedSoxFan9 4,216]

It’s not going to matter when Edelman has 5 rings

[Kal-El814 4,772]

4 minutes ago, Slug said:

Lynn Swann says what?

If Edelman played in the late 70s his career would have been shorter than Swann’s.  Joking aside, 1/29 receivers does not make for a compelling case for how the position is treated, that’s like saying Flacco should be in because Namath is. 

 

This problem is gonna have to be addressed at a bunch of positions, though. There’s no way they’re going to let in both Mannings, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Rivers, and Roethlisberger... they won’t have the HOF be 25% QBs all from the same decade / era. 

 

2 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said:

It’s not going to matter when Edelman has 5 rings

 

The Pats will drop Edelman like a hot rock as they do with every RB and WR. 

[Slug 1,411]

1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said:

Joking aside, 1/29 receivers does not make for a compelling case for how the position is treated, that’s like saying Flacco should be in because Namath is.

Bob Hayes?  John Stallworth?  Yeah, it's not common for the position.  But it happens.  And we're now talking about a guy who is a 3x Super Bowl winner, an MVP, and who is second only to Jerry Rice in post-season receptions?  He'll go.

[RedSoxFan9 4,216]

Edelman still gets wide open on short routes so I doubt the Pats will cut him anytime soon

[PaladinSolo 973]

Edelman isn't going to the HOF, in 10 years no one will remember who he was let alone put him on a list with guys like Fitzgerald, Jones, and Brown, lol.  His post season stats are skewed because of the number of games hes played in, Rice is probably the only one to have played in more games than him too in the playoffs because he was on a dominant team for so long, Rice just also dominated the regular season as well.

[Keyser_Soze 8,014]

4 hours ago, PaladinSolo said:

Edelman isn't going to the HOF, in 10 years no one will remember who he was let alone put him on a list with guys like Fitzgerald, Jones, and Brown, lol.

 

Guy one: Remember Julian Edelman?

Guy Two: Who? Oh yeah that white guy!

 

He will be remembered.

[thewhyteboar 4,111]

Baseball player is connected to steroids - he carries that scarlet letter for life, forever tainting his career. 

Football player tests positive - meh. How does this effect my fantasy team?

 

The way fans treat steroid users in these 2 sports is so weird. 

[CastlevaniaNut18 3,403]

I dunno why, but I've never really given a shit about steroids in football. 

[Keyser_Soze 8,014]

In baseball you only need to do one thing, hit the ball far.

In football you have to do a bunch of things well.

[Kal-El814 4,772]

Julian Edelman is Wayne Chrebet who just happened to play on the Pats. Chrebet in the regular season averaged more yards per reception and fumbled / used PEDs less often. Neither of them belong in any hall of fame other than the 5'10" white guy hall of fame which isn't a thing because nobody cares.