Triage Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Yeah by now eneryone has seen or heard of the Gillette commercial... Seems men on both right and left side find it offensive. Curious to see how men of D1P feel and why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 It feels opportunistic and insincere to me. Otherwise I don't really care that much about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The ad is basically saying "don't be a bully, don't sexually harass people, etc." If you feel personally attacked by an ad saying men shouldn't do those kinds of things, I'm going to assume that you take part in those kinds of actions. There's a conversation to be had about the value of a moral message in advertising in general, but I can't say I'm offended by anything in the ad itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Doesn’t bother me @Triagebecause I’m a gentleman. In fact I picked up some Gillette blades yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Nothing wrong with the intent of the message. Being a tough guy should be a thing of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: Nothing wrong with the intent of the message. Being a tough guy should be a thing of the past. fight me irl, punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 HOW DARE YOU ATTACK MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH IF I WANT TO BE A DICKBAG THAT'S MY DECISION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, TheLeon said: HOW DARE YOU ATTACK MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH IF I WANT TO BE A DICKBAG THAT'S MY DECISION There are definitely parts of the commercial that can be construed as misandry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: fight me irl, punk That’s what we’ll tell them if anyone comes in on us mid deed! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said: That’s what we’ll tell them if anyone comes in on us mid deed! I'm feeling a little warm and flushed right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 woke capitalism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: I'm feeling a little warm and flushed right now Good thing I’m a doctor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Good thing I’m a doctor! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_of_X Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Nothing to be offended about really. I mean, it's a commercial and I'm not an asshole. I wasn't seeing them exactly spreading untruths there. Maybe people are upset that a commercial is where they're sending that message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I am kinda like "so all men are monsters, huh?"And I am kinda with whoever this guy is. Saw this on The Philip DeFranco show, but I don't feel this strongly about it. Mainly because it does feel partially like, "ALL MEN MUST CHANGE," but I don't think that was the intent. I mostly dislike their use of this message to sell razors. Feels similar to that pepsi shit with whatever jenner. 55 minutes ago, TwinIon said: The ad is basically saying "don't be a bully, don't sexually harass people, etc." I see it as "Men, you need to stop being a bully, stop sexually harassing people, etc." And I think that is where the outrage is, or was at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: The ad is basically saying "don't be a bully, don't sexually harass people, etc." If you feel personally attacked by an ad saying men shouldn't do those kinds of things, I'm going to assume that you take part in those kinds of actions. There's a conversation to be had about the value of a moral message in advertising in general, but I can't say I'm offended by anything in the ad itself. This was basically how my husband felt about it. It's nice being married to a guy who doesn't think he has to be an asshole to be a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triage Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, Bacon said: I am kinda like "so all men are monsters, huh?"And I am kinda with whoever this guy is. Saw this on The Philip DeFranco show, but I don't feel this strongly about it. Mainly because it does feel partially like, "ALL MEN MUST CHANGE," but I don't think that was the intent. I mostly dislike their use of this message to sell razors. Feels similar to that pepsi shit with whatever jenner. I see it as "Men, you need to stop being a bully, stop sexually harassing people, etc." And I think that is where the outrage is, or was at this point. But it also shows men that stop harassment and bullying and says that some men already do that (the right deeds). Not once says all Men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triage Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: This was basically how my husband felt about it. It's nice being married to a guy who doesn't think he has to be an asshole to be a man. Same with @Emblazon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 It's a company whose tagline has always been "the best a man can be". If their tagline had been "free your skin", then it would feel weird or out of left field. The moral message fits their message--be better, and be better with our product. As others have said--if the ad offends you, perhaps it's time for some introspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I have a friend who has been posting all kinds of stuff about masculinity and why it's needed since this ad came out. He's laughed at my jokes about all of it, but he still says he's never buying Gillette again. I think he missed the point of the ad. Also, I quit buying Gillette a while back and switched to DSC. I have no regrets thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Triage said: But it also shows men that stop harassment and bullying and says that some men already do that (the right deeds). Not once says all Men. You are not wrong, and I don't feel like the "all men" was their intent. However, others took the commercial differently and I can see why. 8 minutes ago, Emblazon said: As others have said--if the ad offends you, perhaps it's time for some introspection. You have worded it more nicely, and some are offended because the ad is pointing them out, but like the video, there will be people that take issue with this statement of yours. Being offended does not make you guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The razor company I've found that I really like and has both been the best and most cost effective is Billie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I'm seeing some ads for Billie lately, but honestly, I'm content with DSC and I like their other products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I personally don't give a shit about a commercial nor would I get upset about it. But I still wonder why public owned companies keep wading into this type of shit. They are a fucken razor company. Did nobody say to anyone that maybe shit like this wouldn't be a good idea and piss off the people they are trying to sell products to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, legend said: It feels opportunistic and insincere to me. Otherwise I don't really care that much about it. Yeah, my immediate reaction was just being puzzled about why they made this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Snaynay1 said: I personally don't give a shit about a commercial nor would I get upset about it. But I still wonder why public owned companies keep wading into this type of shit. They are a fucken razor company. Did nobody say to anyone that maybe shit like this wouldn't be a good idea and piss off the people they are trying to sell products to? When it comes to brand recognition, publicity is good, even controversial/bad publicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triage Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: Yeah, my immediate reaction was just being puzzled about why they made this. To get attention because we know how that goes especially after Nike. So my issue is if the intent is to pass a positive message to bring attention to an issue that needs resolution, that's great. But if it's only to increase your sales that really sucks because the issue is real. Or someone got brave enough because more and more women speak out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I mean, like Eblazon said, it does fit with their tagline of "The best a man can get" and it's not like companies haven't been wading into social issues for quite some time now. It's not hard to figure out why they did it. Of course, sincerity is another issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurdyb1 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I had heard the commotion about it and finally saw it recently. I thought it was a good ad with a message that no one should be offended about. If a man has an issue with that commercial, I'd question some roles they have in the lives of people close to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I mean, like Eblazon said, it does fit with their tagline of "The best a man can get" and it's not like companies haven't been wading into social issues for quite some time now. It's not hard to figure out why they did it. Of course, sincerity is another issue. It is if you had no idea what their tagline is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jason said: It is if you had no idea what their tagline is. You seriously never seen a Gillette commercial and you're, what, around 30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I agree with the verbiage in the commercial, and it's funny (though not at all surprising) that the expected groups had a cow (insincere or not) about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: You seriously never seen a Gillette commercial and you're, what, around 30? I haven't had live TV service since I went off to college at 18, so unless I'm over someone else's place and they turn it on I'm just not exposed to TV advertising. And as you know I don't watch sports, so it's not like I'm going to bars to catch games (and thus having that opportunity to be exposed to TV advertising). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, Jason said: I haven't had live TV service since I went off to college at 18, so unless I'm over someone else's place and they turn it on I'm just not exposed to TV advertising. And as you know I don't watch sports, so it's not like I'm going to bars to catch games (and thus having that opportunity to be exposed to TV advertising). I mean, I don't watch much in the way of live TV, either, but this has been around a really long damn time. Like, all my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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