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Television Game of Thrones - Season 8 - Starting April 14th

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2 hours ago, fuckle85 said:

 

Just checked in and it looks like things have calmed down since a day or two ago.  Was trying to get some screenshots of the posts that were cheering her on as she nuked the city and the ones still defending her as a character or saying there was no indication she could be a villain, but that side of the argument has pretty much given up the ghost now at least

 

Oh she's definitely an irredeemable villain now... there's not doubt about that. I predict once she dies, Drogon will go berserk and basically become the Godzilla/Smaug of Westeros, terrorizing the continent for generations.

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This season is a good beta test for the Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring

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3 hours ago, fuckle85 said:

BTW, the remaining books might not be coming, but if anyone does want something GoT-related that's entertaining to read, check out the official GoT thread on Resetera where tons of users, many with Dany avatars, are absolutely livid about the events of last week's episode. Yowza!

Oh, I loved twitter on sunday night. It was grade A comedy. I very much look forward to next week. 

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3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Despite watching the episode twice, I complete missed that Varys was trying to poison Dany in the beginning of the episode. :facepalm:

 

Indeed he was. He was in full-on rebellion mode. He deserved his fiery death. If he had successfully poisoned her at that point, the Dothraki and Unsullied would be in disarray and they'd be left with a dragon they couldn't control which was their entire trump card. Drogon would go from their own flying WMD to a ridiculously huge liability as he goes back to munching on commoners and torching small villages. He's just as dumb as Jon, only a thousand times more arrogant and completely lacking in any self-awareness.

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14 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Eh, I always liked The Spider. 

 

I did too, but he's always been full of himself. It's not a reason to dislike him. All the best characters in GoT are a bit full of themselves. It's how dumb he's been since leaving King's Landing that's thrown me off his wagon.

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Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I blame the writers for handling some of these characters horribly over the past few seasons. 

See what I just posted :p

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4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

 

Varys has been out of his element. He lost his network of spies and found himself the suburbs without hundreds of little beggar kids to do his dirty work. The writers obviously had no idea what to do with him without that network to lean on.

 

That said, they could have done a better job. That, however, is true if a lot of the later seasons. I say that knowing that GoT is still better TV than the vast majority of the crap on broadcast, streaming, and premium.

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1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Despite watching the episode twice, I complete missed that Varys was trying to poison Dany in the beginning of the episode. :facepalm:

 

Wait, he was? I didn't catch that either. 

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3 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Despite watching the episode twice, I complete missed that Varys was trying to poison Dany in the beginning of the episode. :facepalm:

 

Wait he was? I missed that shit too! :lol:

 

1 hour ago, Brick said:

 

Wait, he was? I didn't catch that either. 

 

 

Glad I wasn't the only one!

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10 minutes ago, Mercury33 said:

😂 I didn’t catch that either smh

 

6 minutes ago, Massdriver said:

I missed it too. Anyone got a gif?

It's the girl who comes in saying she won't eat, and Varys says they'll try again at supper, then the girl says she's being watched, and Varys said the bigger risk the bigger reward

 

 

Also not related, related

 

 

 

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It was when Varys was talking to the little girl. 

 

It was pretty subtle and easy to miss. Especially since the series has increasingly made Varys a cuddly quip machine and downplayed his dark side.

 

It kind of worked out perfectly for me because I am rereading the first book and just got to the part where Varys is, at the very least, complicit in Ned's upcoming death.

 

And even in the recent scene they somewhat soft peddled Varys since in the books, I beleive he removes his "little birds" tongue so they can't talk(as well as being pretty nonchalant about the high death rate of his little child laborers :lol: ). 

 

I think his turn kind of felt a bit weird on the show(as so many things have felt "rushed") but it falls in line perfectly with the character. He has always been clear he would do anything to give the realm a good ruler. Once he decided that wasn't Dany anymore, he tried to eliminate her.

 

6 minutes ago, 2user1cup said:

 

 

 

I feel it wasn't stressed enough how telling about Dany's character it should have been that Varys had turned against her.

 

Other than small characters like Illyrio and Vyserys, Varys has been the one supporting Dany the longest. Even when he was in the shadows and unknown in the very beggining of the series when Robert was trying to have her assassinated Varys was plotting to bring about her rule.

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Mind. Blown. 

 

I assumed it was cause she was depressed about the Dragon. I def did not put 2 and 2 together. 

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I caught that Varys was trying to poison her, I was more confused that he suddenly had his little birds back. I guess she must have been a new, one-off recruit. 

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2 hours ago, TheLeon said:

I caught that Varys was trying to poison her, I was more confused that he suddenly had his little birds back. I guess she must have been a new, one-off recruit. 

 

Was she the little girl from Winterfell who wanted to stay and fight but jon(?) sent her to the Crypt instead?

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8 minutes ago, Mercury33 said:

 

Was she the little girl from Winterfell who wanted to stay and fight but jon(?) sent her to the Crypt instead?

That would be interesting, but no. I don't think we saw her again after her one scene with Davos and Gilly. She would be recognizable because of her facial scarring (that reminded them both of Shireen). 

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12 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Despite watching the episode twice, I complete missed that Varys was trying to poison Dany in the beginning of the episode. :facepalm:

Now I feel awful about sympathizing him to an extent :facepalm:

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7 hours ago, 2user1cup said:

 

It's the girl who comes in saying she won't eat, and Varys says they'll try again at supper, then the girl says she's being watched, and Varys said the bigger risk the bigger reward

What the fuck.  I thought she was just depressed or something...

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14 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said:

Was anyone actually expecting a truly happy ending out of Game of Thrones?

No one was actually expecting a "happy" ending.

 

The actual expectation is an ending that feels "earned" by the events leading to that ending, and that is where the sense of disappointment lies because of the final two truncated seasons.

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