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Trump ‘at this moment’ opposes deal to avert shutdown, wants more border funding

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8 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

Which is exactly the right strategy. Upping the $1.7 billion in border security that was already appropriated for in the bill to Trump's $5.7 billion, but in border security, and most definitely not a wall, is how this negotiation should go. Even I'm not against giving a couple more billion to re-open the government. It's a ridiculous ask anyway, but at least it goes to what might actually help at the border, and not a useless wall. 

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3 hours ago, PaladinSolo said:

 

 

But hey GOP got a new slogan to scream as they burn their party to the ground.

 

 

"Build a wall and crime will fall"... You know you're in trouble when you start rhyming.

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4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

"Build a wall and crime will fall"... You know you're in trouble when you start rhyming.

It worked for OJ!

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6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

It worked for OJ!

 

11 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

"Build a wall and crime will fall"... You know you're in trouble when you start rhyming.

"Use it and pray? You said Mexico would pay!"

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12 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

 

Why do news organizations keep calling it a request? She has to invite him to give it and she's TOLD him it's not happening.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Why do news organizations keep calling it a request? She has to invite him to give it and she's TOLD him it's not happening.

It requires a joint resolution with the Senate anyway which means that the House Democrats might have enough votes to reject.

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3 hours ago, Kal-El814 said:

Is that... a condom on top of a phone jack going into a ThinkPad from 2004?

 

Edit - May be an Ethernet port. I’ll hang my head in shame. 

 

It’s a phone jack. 

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20 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

 

What is Trump going to do, actually show up and try to enter and then be prevented by the House guard/police (I don't know what the term is in the US)?

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Can he just show up there? Don't the Dems control the cameras? They can just turn them off. Maybe have pet day and broadcast pets playing in another room.

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Just now, CitizenVectron said:

 

What is Trump going to do, actually show up and try to enter and then be prevented by the House guard/police (I don't know what the term is in the US)?

That can certainly happen in theory.

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There isn't a constitutional requirement for the President to deliver a speech, much less one before a joint session of congress.

 

Given this letter I'm sure that Pelosi knows this is a real sticking point for Trump. It would be the most Trump thing ever to end the shutdown just so he can get on TV.

 

However, the President does have the authority to call a joint session "on extraordinary Occasions." I wonder if it'll come to that.

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Just now, SFLUFAN said:

That can certainly happen in theory.

So... What if he insists? We have a police on police shoot out? Does one side cave?

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1 minute ago, TwinIon said:

There isn't a constitutional requirement for the President to deliver a speech, much less one before a joint session of congress.

 

Given this letter I'm sure that Pelosi knows this is a real sticking point for Trump. It would be the most Trump thing ever to end the shutdown just so he can get on TV.

 

However, the President does have the authority to call a joint session "on extraordinary Occasions." I wonder if it'll come to that.

 

What's the extraordinary occasion gonna be? A hamberder party on the House floor?

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10 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Why do news organizations keep calling it a request? She has to invite him to give it and she's TOLD him it's not happening.

Per the NYT, she did make the invitation on January 3rd; however as Wade pointed out, the House Dems still control whether or not it could happen.

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Just now, 2user1cup said:

Can he just show up there? Don't the Dems control the cameras? They can just turn them off. Maybe have per day and broadcast pets playing in another room.

He can show up, but the doors could be locked or if they decide to let them in, the cameras can be turned off because the Republicans already set precedent for it.

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Also, big shocker that Trump ignores a woman when she says no.

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Just now, Chris- said:

Per the NYT, she did make the invitation on January 3rd; however as Wade pointed out, the House Dems still control whether or not it could happen.

 

Invitations can be rescinded.

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1 minute ago, 2user1cup said:

Let him in, turn off the cameras, put a bill in front of him with DACA and M4A.

 

Maybe a mattress and some pretty blond girls?

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UPDATE: "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday said she would not pass a resolution allowing President Donald Trump to deliver his State of the Union address from the House chamber until the government reopens, rebuffing the president’s statement that he would move forward with the speech regardless.


'I look forward to welcoming you to the House on a mutually agreeable date for this address when government has been opened,' Pelosi wrote to Trump is the latest volley between the two leaders."

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So Trump wanted to go to the House for the SOTU and Pelosi said no.

 

 

So I guess this happened.

 

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

 

 

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I know this sounds a bit glib because this is causing real damage to people and the economy, but as long as Trump is forcing this to go on I think there is some usefulness to the situation.

 

Living in a red state, I know food stamp recipients who whine about welfare queens. I know rabid libertarians that I have seen pick up unemployment checks.

 

People say the shutdown inherently hurts Dems, because Republicans don't like government anyway. But the longer this shutdown drags on, the more people are getting a real world, inescapable demonstration about how that big, amorphous bogeyman they call "government" is missed when it's gone.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Snaynay1 said:


The interesting times will begin to happen once food stamp money runs out. 

I think it runs out in February..  I know in anticipation,  they doubled up January's benefits. At least they did in Jersey.

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