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4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

"The makeup of our cave has changed. They're taking away our cave culture. It didn't look like this 10 years ago, let me tell you."

They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists, they're murderers. And some, I suppose, are good people.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

 

Didn’t Trump actually disrespect CNN and Acosta by preemptively cutting off his question, accusing the network of fake news, and then moving on to a “real network” like Fox News?

 

Oh yes, that’s exactly what happened. Literally the exact opposite of what Sanders said. With verifiable video evidence.

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28 minutes ago, osxmatt said:

 

Didn’t Trump actually disrespect CNN and Acosta by preemptively cutting off his question, accusing the network of fake news, and then moving on to a “real network” like Fox News?

 

Oh yes, that’s exactly what happened. Literally the exact opposite of what Sanders said. With verifiable video evidence.

 

Snowflake Sarah says I bothers her that people call her a liar.

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5 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said:

 

 

Trump might be smarter than Obama

 

 

If he cared so much maybe he shouldn't have been a corporatist centrist Democrat who negotiated like a moderate Republican when he was the President of the United States of America for eight fuckin' years

 

Also, Obama is, in part, responsible for Trump, and it's because he wasn't nearly progressive enough. 

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1 hour ago, osxmatt said:

Obama is responsible for Trump in the same way the existence of black people is responsible for the KKK.

 

No, actually, there's proof to show that Trump was in direct response to Obama and I'd argue Obama's handling of the 2016 presidential election was grossly negligent regardless of McTurtle trying to block him.

 

His pushing for Hillary Clinton, his inability to keep his party honest, being bought by CitiBank and other Wall Street corporations. I like Obama a good bit actually, but I absolutely think he teed up the country (in part) to vote Trump in 2016, not intentionally, but negligently. 

 

Had he pushed a more Bernie Sanders-type progressive agenda in his 8 years, I guarantee that Trump would not have won in 2016. 

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2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

If he cared so much maybe he shouldn't have been a corporatist centrist Democrat who negotiated like a moderate Republican when he was the President of the United States of America for eight fuckin' years

 

Also, Obama is, in part, responsible for Trump, and it's because he wasn't nearly progressive enough. 

Obama is responsible for Trump the same way he's the most divisive President in history... he EXISTED.

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10 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Obama is responsible for Trump the same way he's the most divisive President in history... he EXISTED.

 

His inability to do as much as he should have depressed democratic voter turnout amongst progressives. Sure, Hillary Clinton was the worst candidate in history, but who set the stage for her? 

 

I think we can't just ignore the stage Obama set either. He could have been stronger and more progressive, like he had originally promised in 2008. He was completely ineffective in neutralizing Donald Trump while he was President and knew about election tampering. He is responsible, in part. 

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9 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

His inability to do as much as he should have depressed democratic voter turnout amongst progressives. Sure, Hillary Clinton was the worst candidate in history, but who set the stage for her? 

 

I think we can't just ignore the stage Obama set either. He could have been stronger and more progressive, like he had originally promised in 2008. He was completely ineffective in neutralizing Donald Trump while he was President and knew about election tampering. He is responsible, in part. 

I'm not saying Obama was perfect.  I'm saying that blaming him for Trump when he left the country in far better shape than he found it despite constant Republican opposition and unprecedented levels of disrespect and undermining. Thinking that the first black President in this country could follow a Progressive agenda without being accused by the Right of being a Socialist who wants to take guns and food from white people and give them to minorities displays an incredible lack of understanding about how racial politics work in this country.

Trump won because White America panicked and thought the country was changing too fast and they would lose their privaledged position. That's why Trump won. Only another White man, MAYBE could have beaten him and no I don't count Bernie.

Ultimately you know who is responsible for Trump? The American Electorate.

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4 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

Clinton was an obviously flawed candidate in a few key ways, but section interference was a real thing and she won the popular vote. The retcon of her into the worst candidate ever is... weird. 

Especially when she and Bernie agreed on 97% of the issues or something like that.

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