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I look forward to McCaskill and Manchin voting yes for the replacement and Democrats making excuses for them. 

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Just now, RedSoxFan9 said:

Socialists are the real threat

 

Also incivility. 

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Any chance Dems use the GOP’s line and ask that “people vote on it this November,” win the Senate and at least try and replace Kennedy with another Kennedy?

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5 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Well this fucking sucks. This will mean decades of a far right court. I shudder to think of the damage they'll do.

 

Democrats need to pack the court next time they’re in power.  

 

Weakening the power of the court (and the president) should also be on the agenda. 

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Just now, osxmatt said:

Any chance Dems use the GOP’s line and ask that “people vote on it this November,” win the Senate and at least try and replace Kennedy with another Kennedy?

No. They'll cave.

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2 minutes ago, osxmatt said:

Any chance Dems use the GOP’s line and ask that “people vote on it this November,” win the Senate and at least try and replace Kennedy with another Kennedy?

 

Manchin and McCaskill will vote yet and Chuck and Nancy will call for civility and norms. 

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I was gonna come in and ask if this was good or bad news... I got the answer pretty quickly. 

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This is why Kennedy has been punting and rolling over. He didn't want his "legacy" to be a bunch of quickly overturned decisions.

 

Prepare for a court with Roberts as the "swing vote". Obergefell might survive, but Roe is likely gone in all but name. Which actually might be worse because they'll get to keep it as a campaign issue, while making abortion effectively illegal in every state that can come up with a minimally defensible law.

 

As bad as Roberts is, at least he's not an originalist activist. The real fun is when Trump gets to replace RGB or one of the other liberals.

 

At that point, you all but have a Scalia-like majority on the court. Forget gay marriage, we might be back to sodomy laws. Miranda rights might be gone. Almost no one appreciates how far a court like that might go because the things they might do are things we take so for granted that we haven't even thought to ask the questions.

 

Here's a pleasant thought. If Trump is considering fighting a supeona, firing Mueller, or pardoning himself he now has a timeline to do it.....

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McConnell just said on the Senate floor that “we’ll be voting on a replacement this fall.”

 

There’s no way he was being literal, right?

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12 minutes ago, Bacon said:

I was gonna come in and ask if this was good or bad news... I got the answer pretty quickly. 

you should know by now that everything that happens in this admin will end up bad news

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2 minutes ago, osxmatt said:

McConnell just said on the Senate floor that “we’ll be voting on a replacement this fall.”

 

There’s no way he was being literal, right?

 

Of course he is. Gotta rush this through just in case they lose the Senate.

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3 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

This is why Kennedy has been punting and rolling over. He didn't want his "legacy" to be a bunch of quickly overturned decisions.

 

Prepare for a court with Roberts as the "swing vote". Obergefell might survive, but Roe is likely gone in all but name. Which actually might be worse because they'll get to keep it as a campaign issue, while making abortion effectively illegal in every state that can come up with a minimally defensible law.

 

As bad as Roberts is, at least he's not an originalist activist. The real fun is when Trump gets to replace RGB or one of the other liberals.

 

At that point, you all but have a Scalia-like majority on the court. Forget gay marriage, we might be back to sodomy laws. Miranda rights might be gone. Almost no one appreciates how far a court like that might go because the things they might do are things we take so for granted that we haven't even thought to ask the questions.

 

Here's a pleasant thought. If Trump is considering fighting a supeona, firing Mueller, or pardoning himself he now has a timeline to do it.....

Blue states will start to learn a new word: "nullification".

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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Of course he is. Gotta rush this through just in case they lose the Senate.

 

That’s why I asked if he was being literal.

 

Fall begins on 9/22. No way he actually waits that long for a vote.

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What a coward. He was publicly known to have wanted to take on gerrymandering during his time in office, and when he had the chance he punted.

 

The US is so fucked. In 20 years (maybe 10) the Democrats will be winning the popular vote by 15% in the House and will still be losing control.

 

The GOP has given up on civility and conventions, and it's time that the Democrats did the same. At this point there is no point in pretending that any of that actually matters, and Democrats should use every tool they have to play just as dirty as the GOP. Honestly it would actually energize their base. The Democrats have more voters than Republicans, and if they actually acted like a real opposition party then they could hype up their base like the GOP is so good at doing.

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5 minutes ago, osxmatt said:

 

That’s why I asked if he was being literal.

 

Fall begins on 9/22. No way he actually waits that long for a vote.

 

McConnell might want to use the vote to energize the Right.

 

Since the Senate is a long shot for Dems to begin with, and it worked out for him pretty damn well in '16, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually dragged out the final vote until after the election. 

 

It can not be overstated just how intoxicating the promise of finally overturning Roe is to the Right. 

 

Evangelicals held their nose and voted for Trump in '16 just to keep the status quo on the court. Imagine what it looks like to single issue voters to finally have that victory within reach after 4 decades of fighting for it. 

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2 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

McConnell might want to use the vote to energize the Right.

 

Since the Senate is a long shot for Dems to begin with, and it worked out for him pretty damn well in '16, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually dragged out the final vote until after the election. 

 

Actually this is true, I can very easily see McConnell dragging it out while the GOP goes into full-force lying that the Democrats are obstructing the nomination as a way to try to energize the base into showing up to vote.

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