mclumber1 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: And care about more than just the physical safety of our loved ones and communities, unlike the maga chuds I'm just happy that this term is catching on at D1P. Please start using "MAGA chuds" in everyday conversations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I'm just happy that this term is catching on at D1P. Please start using "MAGA chuds" in everyday conversations. Can we genetically engineer an actual CHUD and make it a Justice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 In all seriousness, I've been dealing with depression for the last few months or so. Shit news like this is the last thing I need. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Chairslinger said: Trump doesn't have to pick someone flashy, entertaining, or weird for SCOTUS. He'll take the Federalist Society's recommendation and nominate someone presentable, qualified, and absolutely horrifying. It's like picking Pence. Don't let the game show fool you. When it comes to the big decisions Trump knows where his bread is buttered. Honestly, I just wanted the chance to call him "Milo Dannonyogurtcup". I need that small bit of joy with this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 39 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: In all seriousness, I've been dealing with depression for the last few months or so. Shit news like this is the last thing I need. Upvoting not because I'm glad you're depressed, but because I can relate and it's the small things that glimmer and get you through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 54 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: In all seriousness, I've been dealing with depression for the last few months or so. Shit news like this is the last thing I need. Are you seeing anybody to help with that? Your D1P fam loves you and we want to help how we can. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Are you seeing anybody to help with that? Your D1P fam loves you and we want to help how we can. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Are you seeing anybody to help with that? Your D1P fam loves you and we want to help how we can. I'm seeing a therapist bi-weekly (I would go weekly, but the co-pay is $60, and I can't afford that). I appreciate the warm wishes from everyone, though. Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You up vote a majority of my idiotic posts, so you're good people in my eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I'm seeing a therapist bi-weekly (I would go weekly, but the co-pay is $60, and I can't afford that). I appreciate the warm wishes from everyone, though. Thanks guys. PM me your PayPal info 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: In all seriousness, I've been dealing with depression for the last few months or so. Shit news like this is the last thing I need. Keep posting here man. We are all glad you're here with us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I'm not being defeatist, I was legit asking a question. I know about all the protests and they're not going away soon, I just wasn't aware of what's been accomplished. It sounded like you were dismissing it as something that did nothing, but it was an impressive and long-lasting movement. Apologies. Anyway, I'm not predicting that the seat won't get filled. I said from the start that I feel that there's a pretty high chance this gets filled unless a Republican surprises me (one that's not running for reelection) and votes no. The reason I brought up Alabama (and it wasn't to remind people I was saying it was competitive even before we found out Moore was a pedophile), the gun control movement, the health care protests, and let's add the #metoo movement as well, is because all of them were probably told, "Good luck with that. We're screwed." Yet Roger Ailes fell in disgrace, Bill O'Reilly was canned, Matt Lauer was let go, Harvey Weinstein was toppled, gun control laws were enacted (yes, I'd like even more enacted, but a GOP legislature/governor being pressured to act was freaking huge down here), gun control groups became more powerful, Democrats are likelier to attack and fight against the NRA, health care repeal was gutted as people protested in even deep red districts, and Doug Jones won Alabama. This very well could go exactly as we're thinking it's going to go, but I'd like to be able to say I exercised my right to contact my Senator, and with future judicial nominations still in play in 2019 and 2020, it makes 2018 even more important (another vacancy opening up but with a Democratic leader of the Senate would be way preferable). If you agree with all this, great. Let's work the phones and do our part even if it's for naught. This doesn't depress me; it just makes me more motivated to vote in even the tiniest elections and referendums. 2 hours ago, marioandsonic said: When was I ever happy? When we tell you you're awesome and welcome here always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: PM me your PayPal info Yeah, I’m happy to pitch in so our guy can get the care he needs. Mental health is serious business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 From former deputy chief of staff of Harry Reid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 “Lock down 49” is where I have virtually no hope. The Dems just don’t have the kind of strict party discipline the GOP does because the party encompasses a much wider array of political belief than the GOP does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I have little faith that Manchin, Tester, McCaskill are going to buckle down and vote "no" when they're fighting for their lives to keep their seats in Nov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 McCaskill and Tester voted no for Gorsuch. The ones to sway are Manchin, Donnelly and Heitkamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I have little faith that Manchin, Tester, McCaskill are going to buckle down and vote "no" when they're fighting for their lives to keep their seats in Nov. These are the names that went through my mind as well when I saw the tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I have little faith that Manchin, Tester, McCaskill are going to buckle down and vote "no" when they're fighting for their lives to keep their seats in Nov. And a bunch of Democrats are going to make excuses for them selling us out to keep their seats. Despite the fact that having red-state Democrats who vote with you some of the time instead of Republicans who vote with you none of the time doesn't do any good if they've helped the GOP stack the court with justices who will just overturn their better votes anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: McCaskill and Tester voted no for Gorsuch. The ones to sway are Manchin, Donnelly and Heitkamp. The last two are the real ones that will be lost. I think manchin is safe enough based on polling but the other two are gonners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Great system we have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jason said: And a bunch of Democrats are going to make excuses for them selling us out to keep their seats. Despite the fact that having red-state Democrats who vote with you some of the time instead of Republicans who vote with you none of the time doesn't do any good if they've helped the GOP stack the court with justices who will just overturn their better votes anyhow. I mean, to me it really depends on whether or not the vote is symbolic or not. If we have enough to actually block the nominee with a couple GOP defections and a Dem casts the deciding aye vote, then fuck them. Probably the biggest challenge to my "anybody but a Republican" mindset this year was when I found out Donnelly voted aye for Haspel when we had enough GOP defections to stop her if we had stayed united. However, if the GOP has the votes anyway, I see little use in taking a symbolic vote that only serves to make the Senate even harder to win. Dems need to get more pragmatic, not more ideological. I'd rather have the 51st Dem in the Senate in 2019 when Trump tries to name RGB's successor then have a solid 49 loss on whoever Trump nominates this year. 6 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Great system we have. Even funner fact. If Trump gets a second term that number will likely be 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I mean, to me it really depends on whether or not the vote is symbolic or not. As Jentleson was saying, if you have Democrats saying they'll vote for the replacement it takes the heat off the GOP. Whereas if you have 49 guaranteed no votes, and McCain isn't around, then it really puts the heat on McConnell to keep everyone in line. So basically by not locking down 49 you're guaranteeing that it'll be symbolic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 From October 2016: Sen. Maverick McCivil Says Republicans Will Block All Court Nominations If Clinton Wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 10 hours ago, marioandsonic said: In all seriousness, I've been dealing with depression for the last few months or so. Shit news like this is the last thing I need. I’m right there with you, buddy. It’s a struggle everyday but just know you are never alone in your fight. I wish you the best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Liberals in the US (including all of you) need to wise up to the fact that the rules don't matter any more. The only thing left that matters is winning elections...and even that might not matter soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I’m all for some fucking rule breaking. Yes, let’s break some fucking rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Liberals in the US (including all of you) need to wise up to the fact that the rules don't matter any more. The only thing left that matters is winning elections...and even that might not matter soon enough. I think most of us here are well aware. Not sure if the Chuck Schumer's of the world get it yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I think most of us here are well aware. Not sure if the Chuck Schumer's of the world get it yet though. Chuck and Nancy know if the rules go out the window they get the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm not sure what rules you expect senate democrats to break since they are in minority position, they have no power to alter the rules and republicans just need to vote together to get a justice appointed. What exactly are people expecting them to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, elbobo said: I'm not sure what rules you expect senate democrats to break since they are in minority position, they have no power to alter the rules and republicans just need to vote together to get a justice appointed. What exactly are people expecting them to do? Magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Magic When you're walking around the new God of War games and the side dwarves are already there to greet you in every shop in every realm, they said, "Magic," as the reasoning. So magic does work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Quote “My goal here is not to block judges. My goal is to get a vote on tariffs, and I have all the leverage I need with circuit court nominees,” Flake told the Arizona Republic newspaper. “I have all the leverage I need. I certainly wasn’t anticipating a Supreme Court vacancy, but it’s unaffected.” Say what you want about the Arizona senator, the man is aptly named. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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