HardAct Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 My son asked me if I could find a good deal on a pre built or maybe have me build him one as he is getting into video editing and his current PC is really old. I build gaming rigs and have no issues going either way for him but I'm un aware as to what to prioritize for a Video editing home PC over a gaming rig. When I look online you bombarded by gaming rigs and I'm pretty sure he really won't need a good video card for this type PC right? I know lots of fast ram, couple good sized hard drives maybe 980 Samsung m.2s say 2TB and a 4TB, with a good motherboard and a really fast CPU right? Maybe AMD high core count CPUs, etc? His budget is $1500 buy or build. I tend to go way to big when I build my gaming rigs but use them for 5 years or so and just do it again with all new high-end parts, he can't afford to do it like that. I need advise from PCers in the know that mainly do video editing on a budget and not game really/ A mid tier gaming rig might be fine I just don't know, can you give some advise and explain the differences in a gaming rig verses a video editing workstation? I'm thinking maybe at least 64 gigs ram too but then again I do not know....I mean I'll put 1500 dollar GPU in my builds and go from there, that's his whole budget. Maybe 1500 isn't even possible? Also he's early in this so he's not going to know the differences in high-end or mid tier I just am a quality over price first and don't know how to build budget workstations.... Thanks guys so....... Home PC mainly for video editing purposes........ Budget is $1500 and it can be prebuilt or put together by me, makes no difference so maybe if I build it from parts that budget can stretch into a better power PC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Is there a microcenter near you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 When I was looking for a machine to edit on I used guides like this 403 Forbidden BUYERSGUIDE.ORG I edit for a living and work from home 99% of the time. I'm due for a new machine, buy I've been using a 17 inch Dell XPS laptop for the last couple of years. It was a fine 1080p editing machine when I got it, but it struggles a little with 2K footage and you can forget about 4K. If you work with proxys you're good though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Build should probably be cheaper, because OEMs love to overcharge for storage and RAM capacity upgrades despite the good CPUs they put in the machines. Here's a starting point I think. Surprisingly Intel offers better multithreaded performance per dollar at the budget prices now, and looks like the old 12900K is having a firesale at this moment (<$300) which I think makes it the best bang for the buck editing CPU from a quick glance. He can probably get by with the integrated GPU since it does well at encoding/decoding. If his editing is going to include a lot of special or 3D effects, then he'll need a dedicated video card and better gaming ones will be faster for this too. You can also go cheaper on the motherboard. I picked the cheapest one with Thunderbolt support and that carries a premium, but you can knockoff $200 by going with something else and there are also open box Thunderbolt motherboards on Newegg for way cheaper too. NVM, replacing the Asus Z790 ProART Creator with a cheaper Thunderbolt board I missed while scrolling. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Taichi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power UD90 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($283.00 @ Newegg) Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H) Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ Amazon) Total: $1341.76 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-12 20:52 EDT-0400 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 20 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: Build should probably be cheaper, because OEMs love to overcharge for storage and RAM capacity upgrades despite the good CPUs they put in the machines. Here's a starting point I think. Surprisingly Intel offers better multithreaded performance per dollar at the budget prices now, and looks like the old 12900K is having a firesale at this moment (<$300) which I think makes it the best bang for the buck editing CPU from a quick glance. He can probably get by with the integrated GPU since it does well at encoding/decoding. If his editing is going to include a lot of special or 3D effects, then he'll need a dedicated video card and better gaming ones will be faster for this too. You can also go cheaper on the motherboard. I picked the cheapest one with Thunderbolt support and that carries a premium, but you can knockoff $200 by going with something else and there are also open box Thunderbolt motherboards on Newegg for way cheaper too. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($419.99 @ Amazon) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power UD90 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Amazon) Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H) Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ Amazon) Total: $1233.76 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-12 19:06 EDT-0400 I would just point out that if they do go integrated graphics they have to be sure not to try and save money getting a 12900KF or there is no integrated graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardAct Posted July 13 Author Share Posted July 13 5 hours ago, cusideabelincoln said: Build should probably be cheaper, because OEMs love to overcharge for storage and RAM capacity upgrades despite the good CPUs they put in the machines. Here's a starting point I think. Surprisingly Intel offers better multithreaded performance per dollar at the budget prices now, and looks like the old 12900K is having a firesale at this moment (<$300) which I think makes it the best bang for the buck editing CPU from a quick glance. He can probably get by with the integrated GPU since it does well at encoding/decoding. If his editing is going to include a lot of special or 3D effects, then he'll need a dedicated video card and better gaming ones will be faster for this too. You can also go cheaper on the motherboard. I picked the cheapest one with Thunderbolt support and that carries a premium, but you can knockoff $200 by going with something else and there are also open box Thunderbolt motherboards on Newegg for way cheaper too. NVM, replacing the Asus Z790 ProART Creator with a cheaper Thunderbolt board I missed while scrolling. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Taichi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power UD90 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($283.00 @ Newegg) Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H) Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ Amazon) Total: $1341.76 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-12 20:52 EDT-0400 Looks great, maybe add a second 2 tb m.2 for the windows drive and use the 4tb drive for storage, etc. Do right at $1500! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardAct Posted July 13 Author Share Posted July 13 7 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Is there a microcenter near you? No I wish!! I would be in so much trouble having a store like that near me. I've never even seen one! They would be like Disney land to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 12 hours ago, cusideabelincoln said: Build should probably be cheaper, because OEMs love to overcharge for storage and RAM capacity upgrades despite the good CPUs they put in the machines. Here's a starting point I think. Surprisingly Intel offers better multithreaded performance per dollar at the budget prices now, and looks like the old 12900K is having a firesale at this moment (<$300) which I think makes it the best bang for the buck editing CPU from a quick glance. He can probably get by with the integrated GPU since it does well at encoding/decoding. If his editing is going to include a lot of special or 3D effects, then he'll need a dedicated video card and better gaming ones will be faster for this too. You can also go cheaper on the motherboard. I picked the cheapest one with Thunderbolt support and that carries a premium, but you can knockoff $200 by going with something else and there are also open box Thunderbolt motherboards on Newegg for way cheaper too. NVM, replacing the Asus Z790 ProART Creator with a cheaper Thunderbolt board I missed while scrolling. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Taichi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power UD90 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($283.00 @ Newegg) Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ B&H) Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.90 @ Amazon) Total: $1341.76 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-12 20:52 EDT-0400 Good, but I would consider the extra $82-110 for one of these: https://a.co/d/badkRIB https://a.co/d/4DDuMqP It’d still be within budget and the 7900x typically outperforms the 12900k in most rendering tasks iirc, plus it runs cooler with a way lower power draw, and there’s an upgrade path (if you’re into that sort of thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 5 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Good, but I would consider the extra $82-110 for one of these: https://a.co/d/badkRIB https://a.co/d/4DDuMqP It’d still be within budget and the 7900x typically outperforms the 12900k in most rendering tasks iirc, plus it runs cooler with a way lower power draw, and there’s an upgrade path (if you’re into that sort of thing). Whoa, Amazon is selling Micro Center bundles now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ApatheticSarcasm Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Question OP since you do build gaming rigs, would it be an option to take one of your older (maybe by a generation) ones and simply upgrade that to give to your son? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 52 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: Whoa, Amazon is selling Micro Center bundles now? Not good ones But, yea, they have been for a bit, but it’s just mobo + cpu and no ram and, while it’s a good bit cheaper than buying the parts separately, it’s not as cheap as the actual bundles in-store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 @HardAct just out of curiosity, what video editing software does your son use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 @HardActjust buy this, the deal is f’n insane (requires Amazon Prime): Thermaltake Reactor i470T Gaming Desktop - $1,336.54 - Free shipping for Prime members Thermaltake Reactor i470T Gaming Desktop SELLOUT.WOOT.COM Thermaltake Reactor i470T Gaming Desktop 13900k, 4070 Ti, 32gb 5600mhz DDR5, 2tb m.2, AIO CPU cooler, $1,336.54 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Hmmm, I wonder why 13900K systems are on sale. Still worth the risk if you get a bum one though, hellava deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Dammit, I was about to jump on that but it’s sold out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 They focus on the high end, but I really like Puget Labs work when looking for specific hardware recommendations. They test out hardware for specific software and give very specific recommendations on exactly what kind of hardware will benefit the software you're running. Here's their page on Premiere Pro and here's what they recommend for DaVinci Resolve. For example, they recommend a high frequency CPU for Resolve and a high core count AMD for Premiere, though it's not exactly that simple. Point being that the very specific software in use matters a lot, and I haven't found anyone else that does similar testing for creative software. You don't need to buy a PC from them, but definitely read their page on whatever software your son will be using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardAct Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 On 7/13/2024 at 3:08 PM, Nokra said: @HardAct just out of curiosity, what video editing software does your son use? Not sure, he just started getting really into it and his old PC is a steaming pile. I think he is using the free DeVinci {?} but is liking it so much he's going to buy it? Iappreciate the comments and recommendations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardAct Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 On 7/13/2024 at 11:03 AM, ApatheticSarcasm said: Question OP since you do build gaming rigs, would it be an option to take one of your older (maybe by a generation) ones and simply upgrade that to give to your son? This is always what I used to do, but we lost everything and AAI mean everything in the 2018 Camp fire in Paradise California! Home, vehicles, and everything I had ever collected, GONE. We have since moved to Oregon, but I only have my one gaming rig I have now an i7 9700k, 2080ti, 32 gig ram that is still holding it's own until my next build. Soon as I can buy a 5080 I'm going to build a rig around that and it'll last at least 4-6 years. I don't even have any pc parts anymore to troubleshoot anything like GPU's and ram, power supplies all of which I had shelves full before the fire. So he's wanting one now and isn't going to wait until I can gift him my now gaming rig. I have built pc's for many people in my family, I'm known as "THAT GUY" anything PC. Crazy how well my 2080Ti holds up to even a 4060. Apparently it's still 20-30% faster but of course draws way more power. I'm starting to drool over the thought of my next PC with a $3500-4000 budget! I love my 2080Ti but a shiny 5080Ti would make this guy smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApatheticSarcasm Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 13 hours ago, HardAct said: This is always what I used to do, but we lost everything and AAI mean everything in the 2018 Camp fire in Paradise California! Home, vehicles, and everything I had ever collected, GONE. We have since moved to Oregon, but I only have my one gaming rig I have now an i7 9700k, 2080ti, 32 gig ram that is still holding it's own until my next build. Soon as I can buy a 5080 I'm going to build a rig around that and it'll last at least 4-6 years. I don't even have any pc parts anymore to troubleshoot anything like GPU's and ram, power supplies all of which I had shelves full before the fire. So he's wanting one now and isn't going to wait until I can gift him my now gaming rig. I have built pc's for many people in my family, I'm known as "THAT GUY" anything PC. Crazy how well my 2080Ti holds up to even a 4060. Apparently it's still 20-30% faster but of course draws way more power. I'm starting to drool over the thought of my next PC with a $3500-4000 budget! I love my 2080Ti but a shiny 5080Ti would make this guy smile. I'm so sorry to hear what happened, I'd say if you could find a good deal on used parts that might help you out, its not ideal of course but if that's what you have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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