Ricofoley Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Quote SAO PAULO, Brazil — Brazil for years reveled in its image as a post-racial, left-leaning society. Now Jair Bolsonaro — a far-right outsider who says he “loves” President Trump — has surged to the front of the pack in Sunday’s presidential election, sharply dividing Latin America’s largest nation. To tackle runaway crime, Bolsonaro says, police should gun down more criminals. “A gay son is the result of a lack of beatings,” he once quipped, and insists that homosexuality should not be discussed in elementary schools. He once said that women — because they get pregnant — deserve less pay than men. He has called some minorities fat and lazy. Like Trump, he embraces social media to reach legions of loyal followers. His rallies have become outlets for white men rattled by social and economic change. He has vowed to drain the swamp in the capital and make Brazil “great.” Quote Bolsonaro’s similarities with Trump are “conscious and deliberate,” said Guilherme Casarões, a comparative politics professor at the Getulio Vargas Foundation, a university in Sao Paulo. “Five years ago, he was just another congressman with anti-gay views. Now Bolsonaro, like Trump, has become a larger-than-life figure.” He continued: “Bolsonaro uses well-crafted rhetoric — his slogan is ‘Brazil before everything, and God above all.’ He has been able to reach out to different groups of voters who feel abandoned by the political class. They are now blind to the negative things he says and does, and tend to overlook any aspect that speaks against their candidate.” Bolsonaro has embraced the politics of fear. He demonized his opponents on the left as corrupt, inept radicals and his foes on the right as weak centrists unable to “strongly” represent the conservative cause. Conspiracy theories rule his world: If he loses, it will be only because of a plot to steal the presidency from him, he says. “I will not accept an election result that is not my own victory,” Bolsonaro said in a television interview last month. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/just-like-trump-bolsonaro-leads-brazils-presidential-race-with-right-wing-populist-pitch/2018/10/04/c4ba3728-c65c-11e8-9c0f-2ffaf6d422aa_story.html?utm_term=.c19218fcccff Sweet fancy Moses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Thanks Obama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 We're truly blessed that our institutional rot only brought us Trump. It could still be worse though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Maybe his next stabbing will be fatal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: We're truly blessed that our institutional rot only brought us Trump. It could still be worse though Only Trump? How about a Turtle-packed judiciary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Jason said: Only Trump? How about a Turtle-packed judiciary? That would have happened with or without Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He's winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: There's a headline that the Associated Press probably wrote for Weimar Germany in 1932. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 the people who just want lower taxes are the good conservatives, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedSoxFan9 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 https://theintercept.com/2017/10/07/brazil-election-jair-bolsonaro-us-tour/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: I think this is partially true (well, completely true that the ruling class is fucking over everyone around the world, and partially true that the last few election results are because of it...), but I think populism comes from more than just being economically fucked by the 1%. People are natively racist creatures, as well as naturally opposed to change as they get older. The world is changing faster than ever before, and people don't like it. Having said that, the ironic part about these results is that the rich won't be affected at all since the populists are tied to them as well. The only answer to counter the rich is socialism in one form or another. Doesn't have to be actual socialism, but things that lean towards it like massive redistribution of wealth through taxes on a scale not comfortable in much of the west. EDIT - Also the Amazon rain forest is now completely fucked. While it's true that the previous government was totally corrupt, we're about to see pillaging on an entirely different level now. In a decade idiots will be wondering what went wrong, but that's because they are idiots and don't understand consequences, just anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I understand why they voted for him. They need to free up their economy and the corruption from their previous leaders has been insane. Brazil has the highest murder rate by raw numbers in the world. I know people from Brazil, and they didn’t want this guy, but they were done with elitist, corrupt social democrats. It really sucks that he has to be such a pos to have economic positions that the Brazilian people deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Brazil is a country brave enough to assassinate their president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Maybe video game consoles will finally be affordable in Brazil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Massdriver said: I’m just curious if it even enters your mind that part of what Brazil suffers from is an absurd amount of regulation, making it very difficult to do business there. They are way down the list on every economic freedom index. Do you think that is a good or a bad thing? Clearly the solution to extreme wealth inequality is to make it even easier for businesses to screw people over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, SilentWorld said: Clearly the solution to extreme wealth inequality is to make it even easier for businesses to screw people over. Just ignore what I said. I don’t have time to counter all the points. I deleted my response. Let socialism reign and nevermind all the socialist policies Brazil already has! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 business people love fascism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Jair "she is too ugly to rape" Bolsonaro wins the election and the neoliberal response is to complain about the dang regulation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: We should go the route of "service guarantees citizenship" a la Starship Troopers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Massdriver said: I understand why they voted for him. They need to free up their economy and the corruption from their previous leaders has been insane. Brazil has the highest murder rate by raw numbers in the world. I know people from Brazil, and they didn’t want this guy, but they were done with elitist, corrupt social democrats. It really sucks that he has to be such a pos to have economic positions that the Brazilian people deserve. Perhaps the answer to too much regulation and corruption is a new party that is sane, but also vows to lessen regulations and crack down on corruption. This guy is not that. He is going to start killings, and the blood will be on the hands on the people that voted for him. Besides that, he will be just as corrupt as those before him, only favouring a different group of elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Massdriver Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Jair "she is too ugly to rape" Bolsonaro wins the election and the neoliberal response is to complain about the dang regulation I called the guy a piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Jair "she is too ugly to rape" Bolsonaro wins the election and the neoliberal response is to complain about the dang regulation It's ALWAYS the economy silly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Check out CBC's take: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 hours ago, SilentWorld said: Check out CBC's take: Yeah they are getting raked over the coals for this tweet. To be fair, the article itself is fairly neutral and fact-based, but the tweet headline is horrible and should have been caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 By neutral you mean it's like lolbrazil I don't know!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Business leaders want another Pinochet even if he makes them wrinkle their faces in disgust once or twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 14 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: It begins . . . But hey - what's losing everything of virtue and value for a better economy amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said: It begins . . . But hey - what's losing everything of virtue and value for a better economy amirite? I'm confused, what begins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said: It begins . . . But hey - what's losing everything of virtue and value for a better economy amirite? Wait, do you want GDP growth to be slightly lower? Wow, and I thought you libs said you cared about the poor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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