SaysWho? Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 I wonder if some of the things we saw this midterm will make themselves known in 2020 or 2024. What I mean by that is: Republicans kicked ass in the midwest in 2010, kept their hold in Florida, took over the governors' mansions in Maine and the midwest, etc. However, Obama won in all those places, including Florida, plus other places where Republicans won the governor's mansion (New Mexico, Nevada). But in 2016, the weaknesses we saw earlier made themselves more well-known as Republicans kept their hold of the midwest in 2014 and then outright won those states in 2016, plus won one of Maine's congressional districts. We saw some of the weaknesses there which weren't able to be rectified for the 2016 election. This year, Democrats came back in the midwest, but they also made big inroads in Arizona in the Senate (which a Democrat hasn't won since 1988), came within three points of winning a Senate seat with an unapologetic liberal, flipped the Texas appellate court blue even though it had no Dems on it for two decades, and made big inroads in many state legislatures. I have no idea what will happen in 2020. We may have to live with another Trump term. But I do wonder if, after all the years Democrats have gone after Arizona and Texas, if we're finally seeing progress on that front after really impressive showings in both states. We already kind of saw it in 2016 where Trump won the election yet did worse in those states than Romney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If Beto was running for President, could Texas go blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: I wonder if some of the things we saw this midterm will make themselves known in 2020 or 2024. What I mean by that is: Republicans kicked ass in the midwest in 2010, kept their hold in Florida, took over the governors' mansions in Maine and the midwest, etc. However, Obama won in all those places, including Florida, plus other places where Republicans won the governor's mansion (New Mexico, Nevada). But in 2016, the weaknesses we saw earlier made themselves more well-known as Republicans kept their hold of the midwest in 2014 and then outright won those states in 2016, plus won one of Maine's congressional districts. We saw some of the weaknesses there which weren't able to be rectified for the 2016 election. This year, Democrats came back in the midwest, but they also made big inroads in Arizona in the Senate (which a Democrat hasn't won since 1988), came within three points of winning a Senate seat with an unapologetic liberal, flipped the Texas appellate court blue even though it had no Dems on it for two decades, and made big inroads in many state legislatures. I have no idea what will happen in 2020. We may have to live with another Trump term. But I do wonder if, after all the years Democrats have gone after Arizona and Texas, if we're finally seeing progress on that front after really impressive showings in both states. We already kind of saw it in 2016 where Trump won the election yet did worse in those states than Romney. I know the coming reapportionments won't happen in time for 2020, but the severe skew we saw in several states between the popular vote totals and the resulting split of House seats shows the extent to which the problem is gerrymandering and not (a lack of) Democratic enthusiasm/GOTV. So it'll be interesting to see what happens after districts are redrawn by these newly Democrat-controlled state governments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Here's a great Fox News story... (one of their lead stories of the day) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny Get this, Ocasio-Cortez says she can't pay for her rent, but we did some research and she has 15,000 in savings!!!! Liar! Liar! Lying liar liberal! The comments are particularly great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, ort said: Here's a great Fox News story... (one of their lead stories of the day) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny Get this, Ocasio-Cortez says she can't pay for her rent, but we did some research and she has 15,000 in savings!!!! Liar! Liar! Lying liar liberal! The comments are particularly great. These people should be fired into the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 They've got a timely long form piece on Monica Lewinski as one of their main stories as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Shes clearly just a coastal elite, real murica doesn't have 15 bucks in their savings let alone 1000 times that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 They address that in this hard-hitting piece of journalism... Quote This puts the socialist Democrat well above most American households, whose median checking account balance is $3,400, according to the latest Federal Reserve survey in 2016. Among Millennials, the median balance is about $1,400. HEADLINE NEWS! STOP THE PRESSES! STOP EVERYTHING! NOTHING MATTERS BUT THIS!!!!! What this article is saying, is that in April, she had between $15,000 and $50,000 in her checking account. And since then she has also taken out $6,000 in income from her campaign... and now... 7 months later... GET THIS... she claims she can't afford rent. HOLY SHITBALLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, ort said: Here's a great Fox News story... (one of their lead stories of the day) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny Get this, Ocasio-Cortez says she can't pay for her rent, but we did some research and she has 15,000 in savings!!!! Liar! Liar! Lying liar liberal! The comments are particularly great. By this standard my 50k makes me a 1%er....do I need to eat myself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, ort said: They address that in this hard-hitting piece of journalism... HEADLINE NEWS! STOP THE PRESSES! STOP EVERYTHING! NOTHING MATTERS BUT THIS!!!!! What this article is saying, is that in April, she had between $15,000 and $50,000 in her checking account. And since then she has also taken out $6,000 in income from her campaign... and now... 7 months later... GET THIS... she claims she can't afford rent. HOLY SHITBALLS. Having $15k in your savings makes you an globalist elitist. Having $1 billion makes you a job creator, and good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I had 29k in my account for a few weeks after i sold and bought a house, till i started paying contractors for roof, plumbing, and windows, fixing shit is expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TwinIon Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: I have no idea what will happen in 2020. We may have to live with another Trump term. But I do wonder if, after all the years Democrats have gone after Arizona and Texas, if we're finally seeing progress on that front after really impressivee showings in both states. We already kind of saw it in 2016 where Trump won the election yet did worse in those states than Romney. I'm a terrible prognosticator, so I won't begin to guess what will happen, but I do think there is a lot that could happen in two years that could change things in some swing states. If 2020 plays out like this year but with a poor economy, we could see some real movement in Texas and elsewhere. Of course, a war, or some unknowable Trumpism could shift things more red, but I do feel like we're getting closer to a tipping point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Firewithin said: By this standard my 50k makes me a 1%er....do I need to eat myself? Probably not. But sounds like there is a chance your income is in the top 10%. And I realize you were saying to contrast with the Fox News nonsense, but I point it out because it is sad how little most of the country makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ort said: They address that in this hard-hitting piece of journalism... HEADLINE NEWS! STOP THE PRESSES! STOP EVERYTHING! NOTHING MATTERS BUT THIS!!!!! What this article is saying, is that in April, she had between $15,000 and $50,000 in her checking account. And since then she has also taken out $6,000 in income from her campaign... and now... 7 months later... GET THIS... she claims she can't afford rent. HOLY SHITBALLS. I dont have any 401k or any kind of retirement plan. All I have is maybe $5k in savings in case of an emergency. Does that make me a bad person by their logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, legend said: Probably not. But sounds like there is a chance your income is in the top 10%. And I realize you were saying to contrast with the Fox News nonsense, but I point it out because it is sad how little most of the country makes. I had figured it was probably a lot lower than you'd expect, but I was still surprised when I found out that it takes a good deal less than $1 million a year to crack the 1%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 One of the parties is not like the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: One of the parties is not like the other. How dare you shame that guy wearing the eyepatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 42 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: One of the parties is not like the other. At least Dan Crenshaw looks like a badass, regardless of what Pete Davidson said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Comet said: At least Dan Crenshaw looks like a badass, regardless of what Pete Davidson said. I just assumed someone drew on his picture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, ort said: Here's a great Fox News story... (one of their lead stories of the day) https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny Get this, Ocasio-Cortez says she can't pay for her rent, but we did some research and she has 15,000 in savings!!!! Liar! Liar! Lying liar liberal! The comments are particularly great. It's actually very impressive that she was able to save that much while working as a bartender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It's actually very impressive that she was able to save that much while working as a bartender. She probably (definitely?) lived somewhat frugally which is something so-called "conservatives" love to flap their goddamned gums about as one of their "core values". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: She probably (definitely?) lived somewhat frugally which is something so-called "conservatives" love to flap their goddamned gums about as one of their "core values". She stated recently that she only got health insurance a month or two ago so I wouldn't be shocked if she was frugal out of necessity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Comet said: At least Dan Crenshaw looks like a badass, regardless of what Pete Davidson said. Theres nothing more badass than being an administrator for a racist Facebook group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Theres nothing more badass than being an administrator for a racist Facebook group Beauty is only skin deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I was going to post this exact reference a few hours ago, but I couldn't find a video of it online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Does Georgia qualify as a failed state yet? When will the UN send in inspectors? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: One of the parties is not like the other. And just like in everything else. Republicans put the woman last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Rubio is such a chump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Rubio is such a chump. The best part is how he calls a field goal a "3 pt kick" like some socially inept moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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