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3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Not loading on my phone, what's happening? 

 

They're saying "press statements don't declare a victory" and going after Kemp. They haven't conceded the race because they feel there are enough ballots to force this into a runoff and are saying just because Kemp told reporters he won, doesn't mean he won yet. They also think Kemp was terrible at his job and are doing a litigation hold.

 

I haven't looked at the numbers yet, but I think there are plenty of outstanding votes, so a run-off is possible? But I haven't looked at what's left.

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1 hour ago, legend said:

 

Nice. Ranked voting has some issues, but I think it's a better system.

 

A city in Canada just instituted it under the assumption that it would promote more positive campaigning (with the idea that people would want broad support and be listed higher in the rankings) as well as provide a clear majority of support for each winner. Instead, it was the most negative campaign they have ever held, and the first-placed candidate in each position eventually won regardless of all the rankings. In some cases they didn't even end up with 50% of the vote due to people refusing to list some people in their rankings.

 

Ranked ballot is maybe better than first past the post...but only by a hair. It's still hot garbage.

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3 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

As vote counts continue in Florida the Dem candidate for Agriculture Commissioner has taken the lead by a little over 500 votes.

 

DeSantis has been declared the winner in Florida, but given it's only a 0.6% spread, couldn't there still be enough outstanding votes to force a recount?

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5 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

DeSantis has been declared the winner in Florida, but given it's only a 0.6% spread, couldn't there still be enough outstanding votes to force a recount?

Its looking like that race will also be within recount territory, but realistically Gillum lost, the Senate race though, Nelson still has a shot at overtaking Scott but no one really knows whats still out, other than there is still enough to do it.

 

AZ sen should start reporting around 5PM.

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1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

A city in Canada just instituted it under the assumption that it would promote more positive campaigning (with the idea that people would want broad support and be listed higher in the rankings) as well as provide a clear majority of support for each winner. Instead, it was the most negative campaign they have ever held, and the first-placed candidate in each position eventually won regardless of all the rankings. In some cases they didn't even end up with 50% of the vote due to people refusing to list some people in their rankings.

 

Ranked ballot is maybe better than first past the post...but only by a hair. It's still hot garbage.

 

Do you have a preferred system? Range voting is decent but I think ultimately is too much cognitive burden to ask for in practice.

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4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Why?

 

Seems pretty straight forward: "Rank the candidates from first to worst" .

 

Range voting isn't the same as ranked voting. I was offering range voting as another alternative to rank voting and plurality that has some nice properties, but which has a higher cognitive burden. Range voting involves specifying the quantity of how much you prefer each candidate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Score_voting

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3 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

So for some reason, Broward county registered 30k less votes for the FL senate race than number of total votes, and this didn't happen at that rate anywhere else in the state, Nelson's people are hoping its an error that the hand count will correct as Scott's lead has shrunk to 17k.

 

The woman in charge of counting ballots in Broward County has twice been hauled into court for mishandling ballots. I'm sure everything is going just fine in Broward County though.

 

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A judge has ordered the election supervisor in Florida’s second-most populous county to change the way she handles vote-by-mail absentee ballots after the Republican Party sued her for not following the law.

 

The declaratory injunction, ordered Friday, prevents Broward County Election Supervisor Brenda Snipes from opening the mail-in ballots in secret or before the county’s three-member Canvassing Board meets to determine the ballots’ validity. The board can begin meeting Monday to handle absentee ballots, more than 75,000 of which have been cast in Broward ahead of the Aug. 28 primaries.

 

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The ruling is the second major loss for Snipes’ office in court this year. In May, a judge criticized her office for breaking the law by destroying ballots too soon in the 2016 congressional primary between Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Tim Canova. Snipes earlier won a federal case concerning voter-roll maintenance. Broward has nearly 1.15 million voters, second only to Miami-Dade’s voter population of nearly 1.4 million.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/08/13/judge-sides-with-florida-gop-in-absentee-ballot-dispute-with-broward-county-555553

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2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

A city in Canada just instituted it under the assumption that it would promote more positive campaigning (with the idea that people would want broad support and be listed higher in the rankings) as well as provide a clear majority of support for each winner. Instead, it was the most negative campaign they have ever held, and the first-placed candidate in each position eventually won regardless of all the rankings. In some cases they didn't even end up with 50% of the vote due to people refusing to list some people in their rankings.

 

Ranked ballot is maybe better than first past the post...but only by a hair. It's still hot garbage.

 

What city was that? 

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