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The Sympathizer (HBO) - limited series based on fantastic post-Vietnam War espionage novel, three episodes directed by Park Chan-wook


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Finally caught the first episode (of what looks like will be seven total episodes). This was a really strong start to a show I had very little idea what it was about going in but I come away wanting to watch more. Some of the broad comedy feels tonally misplaced but overall I really enjoyed an area of the Vietnam War that isn't often covered. Hard to believe it'll be 50 years next April since the Fall of Saigon. Chan-wook Park, who not only directs the first three episodes but co-writes all seven, brings all of his incredible skills to bear on the episode, so it is really well made and directed. Everyone should really check this out alongside other recent TV winners like The Gentlemen, Fallout, Tokyo Vice (season 2), Shogun, 3 Body Problem and Invincible (season 2) just to name some really recent stuff. The A.V. Club really enjoyed the first episode as well.

 

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I liked this past Sunday's episode even more than the premiere as the show begins to dig in and lay out the long term game plan. The main actor Hoa Xuende is doing an incredible job playing smooth and sociable with an entire breadth of things happening behind the eyes underneath the surface. Also if you wanted to know if Chan-wook Park would add another bizarre scene with a squid into something he's made, well, he's done it again. Far less uncomfortable than in Old Boy at least, but weird all the same.

 

Getting so much Chan-wook Park all at once is so good.

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On 4/16/2024 at 5:26 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

@foosh was impressed by the spoken Vietnamese dialogue!

Yah. I wish you could all understand it too because the subtitles are a bit more tame compared to whats actually being said lol. Not much more. 

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On 4/14/2023 at 1:31 AM, Moa said:

The book was a lot of fun.

The book is both brilliant and intimidating. i had to read it for an MFA in creative writing, and a few pages into it, I thought I was a joke of a writer compared to the masterpiece he put together.

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I had unfortunately fallen behind on this show and finally caught up, just watched the sixth (and penultimate) episode just now (out of seven episodes for the season). This has been an incredibly interesting if meandering show that does whatever it wants in any given episode. I've really enjoyed the intimate details and strange characters that inhabit the show though the show does feel like it's not ultimately about much. I wonder if they'll adapt the sequel novel, I think the show has been at least handsomely made but given it's relatively low IMDb score of 7/10 with only one more episode to go I'm thinking this show's surreal sense of time and unreliable narrator has been too much work for most viewers to keep up with the show. I think the show's best bits have been when it outwardly mocks different aspects of America and how blatantly racist everything was in subtle and small ways that everyone just accepted. Just one more episode to go, comes out this upcoming Sunday.

 

I hope more here check it out as it is very different than most of what they're making at this level and I think most users here would enjoy something with a little more intellectual meat on the bones.

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"America, they eat your heart, then complain about indigestion." :clap:

 

22 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

 I'm thinking this show's surreal sense of time and unreliable narrator has been too much work for most viewers to keep up with the show.

 

With each passing episode, I get the sense that the show's heightened realism/surrealism indicates that the events occuring in the United States aren't actually real, that he never escaped the fall of Saigon, and that he's constructed this entire double agent persona as a means to psychologically endure the prison camp.

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2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

"America, they eat your heart, then complain about indigestion." :clap:

 

With each passing episode, I get the sense that the show's heightened realism/surrealism indicates that the events occuring in the United States aren't actually real, that he never escaped the fall of Saigon, and that he's constructed this entire double agent persona as a means to psychologically endure the prison camp.

 

That quote really got me. Felt like they absolutely nailed the metaphor in that scene.

 

And I think I agree with you:

 

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It's strange that Man doesn't seem to be around in the North Vietnamese reeducation camp and that every scene where the Captain imagines speaking to Man when they exchange letters feels like something that he really is just making up. They also imply it could be someone else entirely receiving the Captains letters. I also feel like Claude knows that the Captain is a double agent because I feel like he's always fucking with him, but maybe that's just me. 

 

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45 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

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I do kinda recall a scene in the re-education camp from an episode or two ago where

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the interrogator tells the Captain that there is no record of his handler.  From that point was when I really started to question the reality of the events in the US. 

 

Of course, the interrogator could be lying, but it was enough to plant a seed of doubt in my mind and really changed the way I engage with the series. 

 

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23 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

That really was a helluva series finale! :clap:

 

Yeah this was a very enjoyable finale! The twist with Man was pretty obvious once they introduced the commissar but outside of that this was a great final statement on the thesis of this show regarding masks and identities. It's a shame more people didn't check the show out, as the book it's based on has a sequel book called The Committed and it'd be cool if they adapted that next but I doubt that's going to happen now. 

 

Still, it was great to have a prestige TV show be weird when these days that's not so frequent.

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