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40 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

I'm interested in simply roaming around and killing other players brutally, that's it. Hopefully I don't have to engage with this bullshit for that.

 

Me too.  From reading notes, there are different missions available depending if you go outlaw or goody too shoes.   I really want to replay the main game and just be straight out asshole but it does feel like you get punished way harder being the "bad guy" in RDR2 compared to GTA.  

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I'm really near the end I feel

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Did you continue playing end game past the epilogue?  I'm seeing online a ton of people are sticking on chapter 4 to do all the exploration and side stuff cause no one wants to play as Marston cause Arthur is such a great character.  Maybe I should just play online now.

 

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5 hours ago, eggydoo said:

I'm really near the end I feel

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Did you continue playing end game past the epilogue?  I'm seeing online a ton of people are sticking on chapter 4 to do all the exploration and side stuff cause no one wants to play as Marston cause Arthur is such a great character.  Maybe I should just play online now.

 

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Not really. I left no stranger / side missions incomplete before the epilogues. Any desire to finish with legendary animals has been zapped since there is no trophy and little incentive to explore the southern west area.  I think it was a mistake not to spend more time in that part of the map during the epilogues.  I finished "collecting" rock cravings and dream charms while still Arthur but no desire to do dinosaur bones or flowers. Also rock carvings seems pointless after you switch to Marston - I forgot to go visit the guy after finding all 10 and went while being Marston - nothing happened.

 

Really the moment the switch to Marston occurred I had no desire to play.  The only thing I kind of want to do is visit the graves of the characters that fell - there is a trophy for that. The only issue with that is there are 9 and all over the map - I just don't feel like doing all that travel anymore

 

 

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6 hours ago, eggydoo said:

I'm really near the end I feel

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Did you continue playing end game past the epilogue?  I'm seeing online a ton of people are sticking on chapter 4 to do all the exploration and side stuff cause no one wants to play as Marston cause Arthur is such a great character.  Maybe I should just play online now.

 

I literally just played the main story and once I was done deleted it. Game def not good enough to make me want to do all the side stuff. 

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Since I almost never play online, I think I had a completely wrong impression of what the online would be like. I thought it'd be just online players roaming the map but I guess that'd be an MMO? 

 

I really didn't have that bad of a time with the controls in the base game but in stressful situations like online death matches, they're a nightmare for me. I fundamentally suck to begin with, but pretty much 90% of my idiotic deaths were due to fiddling with controls. This and the fact that online stuff still has terrible mission design means this one's going in the trash bin. 

 

Btw, for curiosity's sake, was there actually a way to mute other players? I couldn't figure it out and it was making me violently misanthropic. 

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18 hours ago, johnny said:

I literally just played the main story and once I was done deleted it. Game def not good enough to make me want to do all the side stuff. 

 

I've never done any of the side stuff in any rockstar game, but the stranger quests are gold.  You should do those at least.

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12 minutes ago, eggydoo said:

 

I've never done any of the side stuff in any rockstar game, but the stranger quests are gold.  You should do those at least.

 

The bounties are fun, and some have hysterical endings.

 

I will say that one of the homesteads bummed me the FUCK out. :( 

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9 hours ago, eggydoo said:

 

I've never done any of the side stuff in any rockstar game, but the stranger quests are gold.  You should do those at least.

Meh. Game was too much of a chore. Like I said the main story is great. The STORY. I’m sure the side stuff has great moments. But I’m not diving back into that world until maybe a third game comes out. 

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The online has been a bit better with their update to the economy,  but it is still

messed up. I always enjoy spending more money on baked beans than I earn on selling a gold ring. 

 

Some of the PvP is fun when everyone has the same load outs, but when your going up against people with semi automatic pistols you stand no chance. I am not going to pay real money to just stand a chance in PvP so probably won’t be playing that much unless the balance is better. 

 

I do not know who thought it was a good idea to use your free roam ammo in PvP too. 

 

 

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On 11/6/2018 at 3:36 PM, Kal-El814 said:

I’m in Chapter 4 now and have an assumption about where this is headed / what the endgame will be. Hrm.

 

Spoilers involving speculation about the ending based on what’s happened through what I’d guess is 1/2 of Chapter 4 and involving Red Dead 1.

 

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Also unrelated to the plot... has any game had better looking fog / humidity? Man it’s pretty going through the bayou as the sun is rising. 

 

I'm later on Chapter 5, so I felt safe reading the spoiler since this was your assumption about the game. I gotta say, I'm impressed by your guess having played a lot of Chapter 5 now.

 

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I don't know enough about this time period to know what disease he would have.

But I now realize I NEVER NOTICED THE COUGH. wtf? He was just diagnosed in my game.

 

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On 11/8/2018 at 10:31 AM, Paperclyp said:

Ignoring the specific context of this case (I don’t know it), your read of the situation is way too myopic, hopefully not intentionally so.

 

It’s easy to imagine an inappropriate use of a game world to communicate a message that violates the terms of use of a public media platform.  Someone could clip together clips of the player killing an NPC of a certain race and combine that with their own commentary to make a wholly inappropriate piece of media despite whether or not the game allows you to do it. 

 

I don’t expect to change someone’s mind who uses the real life NPC meme though. 

 

Yeah, you really have to be visiting the alt-right places in the taint of the internet if you use the NPC meme. So I'm not surprised it would be Alien.

 

On 11/8/2018 at 2:10 PM, Paperclyp said:

RDR will probably be a lot more impactful if you play 2 first, actually. They discussed this on waypoint, but the first didn’t really earn the scenes between you and your old gang mates. They just implied that some shit went down. 

 

I watched some clips of the first (and accidentally spoiled myself because of the damn content on the right-hand side of the screen, but on the other hand, it wasn't much of a spoiler lol), and yeah. I'm assuming you've played the game already, but just in case, I'm on Chapter 5:

 

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In RDR1, when John corned Dutch, Dutch says, "I have a plan," and John goes, "You always have a plan!" And having gotten to Ch 5 recently, I kept thinking to myself, Jesus, Dutch has concocted 3 or 4 plans in the span of a couple days and they've gotten much of the gang killed and now washed ashore on an island.

 

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On 11/12/2018 at 10:01 AM, legend said:

 

I just started God of War last night and had a similar reaction.

 

To give an example. In the last mission, RDR2 keeps spawning people behind you, literally out of thin air (I have particular pet peeves with that, but we'll set that aside). I was replaying the checkpoint and *knew* where and when they would spawn, but spinning around, shooting them, and spinning back was was still enormously clumsy.

 

In the very first fight of God of war, I'm fighting one guy and know in my head from the flow of the combat that someone was behind me and moving up. Without any pre-planning I flawlessly executed a perfectly timed spin and attack, in between the attacks I was making on the enemy in front of me, to catch it just before it got me.

 

I'm not using this as example of how great a player I am, because this is the kind of thing millions of gamers do all the time.  Yet in the RDR2 scenario, even knowing well in advance what was going to happen, it was still a chore to pull off what I wanted and not satisfying at all. These are the basics games should have down pat at this point. Yet R* pisses all over them.

 

It's been almost a month, and I'm just reading this. How far are you into GOW? It took a while to click for me, but at one point, the combat just clicked, and I restarted the game, played through the whole thing, I think even got a plat, and it's one of my favorite games of the generation for so many reasons.

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2 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

 

It's been almost a month, and I'm just reading this. How far are you into GOW? It took a while to click for me, but at one point, the combat just clicked, and I restarted the game, played through the whole thing, I think even got a plat, and it's one of my favorite games of the generation for so many reasons.

 

I finished it and then I finished Spiderman :p

 

I didn't 100% but I thought it was fantastic. The combat was certainly different than prior games, but I think it worked well. Summoning your axe back like Thor's hammer in the MCU was incredibly satisfying all on its own :p

 

I'm also really glad GoW won GotY over RDR2. Although I'm still a bit torn between whether I would give the nod to GoW or Spiderman. I also really like Spiderman.

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I have to say that RDR2 literally made every game I've played since play like absolute gold. Turns out it was such a chore that it actually brought a childlike joy back to play other games in comparison and for that, I thank it. 

 

At first I thought it was simply going back to MGSV and its ultra-GOAT gameplay but I'm currently playing ZombiU (well, Zombi for PS4) and it feels like the most AAA shit ever after having RDR2 make me believe that still struggling with remembering how to do basic actions after 20 hours was simply 'realistic' and 'normal'. 

 

I'm not one to bitch about reviews, I fully understand they're subjective, but I for the life of me can't wrap my brain around the myriad of severe issues being so consistently ignored by professional reviewers for the sake of those hype-as-fuck 10/10s. 

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2 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

I have to say that RDR2 literally made every game I've played since play like absolute gold. Turns out it was such a chore that it actually brought a childlike joy back to play other games in comparison and for that, I thank it. 

 

At first I thought it was simply going back to MGSV and its ultra-GOAT gameplay but I'm currently playing ZombiU (well, Zombi for PS4) and it feels like the most AAA shit ever after having RDR2 make me believe that still struggling with remembering how to do basic actions after 20 hours was simply 'realistic' and 'normal'. 

 

I'm not one to bitch about reviews, I fully understand they're subjective, but I for the life of me can't wrap my brain around the myriad of severe issues being so consistently ignored by professional reviewers for the sake of those hype-as-fuck 10/10s. 

 

Yeah that's what get's me. Still rate it highly? Okay sure. Maybe you can get past the objective and significant flaws and still love it. Rate it one of the highest rated games of all time and you've jumped the shark.

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12 minutes ago, legend said:

 

Yeah that's what get's me. Still rate it highly? Okay sure. Maybe you can get past the objective and significant flaws and still love it. Rate it one of the highest rated games of all time and you've jumped the shark.

 

I actually want to hear @ByWatterson's comments about the game pushing the genre forward, but I know he's a lot busier these days. I'd love to hear them because they'll probably be pretty well-argued and shit. :p 

 

The game has REALLY grown on me in the past couple of weeks. Granted, I couldn't play as much before that, so if I'm playing an hour, and much of that is doing one story mission and selling a few things, you're doing a lot of riding and not really getting the experience. But man, just the feeling of looking for treasure, scaling a waterfall and not finding treasure but finding stat enhancers, or the myriad of random events like getting killed by a hermit right away while trying to talk to him or that story Bacon shared of finding a Union girl and her Confederate lover in two places, or stumbling upon a legendary animal location, or finding some dead guy and realizing you're being ambushed by a local gang, the constant discovery is so freaking good.

 

And now that I've gotten better at dead eye, the firefights are fun as hell. 

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7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I actually want to hear @ByWatterson's comments about the game pushing the genre forward, but I know he's a lot busier these days. I'd love to hear them because they'll probably be pretty well-argued and shit. :p 

 

The game has REALLY grown on me in the past couple of weeks. Granted, I couldn't play as much before that, so if I'm playing an hour, and much of that is doing one story mission and selling a few things, you're doing a lot of riding and not really getting the experience. But man, just the feeling of looking for treasure, scaling a waterfall and not finding treasure but finding stat enhancers, or the myriad of random events like getting killed by a hermit right away while trying to talk to him or that story Bacon shared of finding a Union girl and her Confederate lover in two places, or stumbling upon a legendary animal location, or finding some dead guy and realizing you're being ambushed by a local gang, the constant discovery is so freaking good.

 

And now that I've gotten better at dead eye, the firefights are fun as hell. 

 

The atmosphere is really good, there is no question. I don't think I ever got passed the the flaws in the basics though. I might have gone an hour where things are okay and I'm starting to feel okay and then bam! Incredible nonsense strikes and ruins it! :p 

 

 

I think the illustrative observation of my overall feelings was this: the idea of DLC or multiplayer, or anything extra, turned me off. I had no desire to go back to it when there are so many other games I could be playing.

 

But that final Spiderman DLC? Fucking bring it!

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38 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 

I actually want to hear @ByWatterson's comments about the game pushing the genre forward, but I know he's a lot busier these days. I'd love to hear them because they'll probably be pretty well-argued and shit. :p 

 

The game has REALLY grown on me in the past couple of weeks. Granted, I couldn't play as much before that, so if I'm playing an hour, and much of that is doing one story mission and selling a few things, you're doing a lot of riding and not really getting the experience. But man, just the feeling of looking for treasure, scaling a waterfall and not finding treasure but finding stat enhancers, or the myriad of random events like getting killed by a hermit right away while trying to talk to him or that story Bacon shared of finding a Union girl and her Confederate lover in two places, or stumbling upon a legendary animal location, or finding some dead guy and realizing you're being ambushed by a local gang, the constant discovery is so freaking good.

 

And now that I've gotten better at dead eye, the firefights are fun as hell. 

For me it breaks down like this...

 

RDR2 is an absolutely tremendous experience. When the game gets out of its own way the immersion, environment, setting, etc. are all INCREDIBLE.

 

Then you’re doing a slow roll into town with the cinematic camera delivering feels, and your horse tramples an NPC the camera didn’t show you, you get shot to death, and your legendary pelt warps to the trapper.

 

Or you’re leaving the mine in Annesburg and you brush against the foreman which causes every armed NPC and lawman in town to go hostile to the point that they all start shooting. Self defense will tank your reputation so you flee. Turns out that accidentally bumping into the foreman is worth a $10 bounty yet also justifies the fucking death penalty because the wanted system in this game is dumb as a box of rocks. 

 

Or you go to mount your horse and punch it instead. God forbid this happens in Saint Denis because your horse will kick an NPC to death which means... you guessed it... the law will hunt you to death and surrender isn’t an option. 

 

Or the game takes your preferred loadout off you for the hundredth time. 

 

Or the game sequence breaks, lets you do several quests with a character, only to have the main plot ignore this 15 minutes later. 

 

Or you fail a mission because you didn’t do what the game demanded you to do but did not actually instruct you to do at all. 

 

Or the game tells me that I cannot pick up all of an animal because my satchel is full but won’t tell me what to delete to make room. 

 

Then you wrap up a story mission and the atmosphere and music kick in and it’s damn near perfect until the game lets you take the wheel again. 

 

It is a deeply, deeply flawed game with incredible atmosphere and presentation that are truly unparalleled. 

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I just finished Chapter 1 this weekend and go to the new camp near Valentine. 

 

You guys are bumming me out about these issues I have yet to experience. :P

 

 

For real though, is there anything I need to know in terms of tips and tricks to get the most out of the game at this early stage? When I played RDR I did all the side quests available as soon as possible and saved hunting/gathering to the end. Should I alter that methodology? Also, are there any absolute DON'TS out there that I should keep in mind? In terms of reputation, what's the consequence of having a bad one?

 

I literally bought this game Friday and played it for like 3 hours that night. I'm digging the story and characters so far, but not everyone is engrained in my mind yet. The older guy you ride in the wagon with coming down off the mountain, and the black/native american man you hunt with at first both seem pretty awesome. 

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50 minutes ago, CayceG said:

I just finished Chapter 1 this weekend and go to the new camp near Valentine. 

 

You guys are bumming me out about these issues I have yet to experience. :P

 

 

For real though, is there anything I need to know in terms of tips and tricks to get the most out of the game at this early stage? When I played RDR I did all the side quests available as soon as possible and saved hunting/gathering to the end. Should I alter that methodology? Also, are there any absolute DON'TS out there that I should keep in mind? In terms of reputation, what's the consequence of having a bad one?

 

I literally bought this game Friday and played it for like 3 hours that night. I'm digging the story and characters so far, but not everyone is engrained in my mind yet. The older guy you ride in the wagon with coming down off the mountain, and the black/native american man you hunt with at first both seem pretty awesome. 

If you're having issues with the controls, they're fully customizable.  Use cinematic mode for long rides, enjoy the conversations between characters. Talk to your gang members in camp... they'll give you missions. Have fun with the game. I'm playing the epilogue now,  but looking forward to my inevitable replay. I know I missed a ton of stuff... oh lastly, EXPLORE! There's a ton of stuff out there.

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There is definitely no way to fault the game's presentation, graphics, style and sense of grandeur. I absolutely love its atmosphere being a Spaghetti Western fan to begin with. I think it's an achievement in that sense, I really do, and none of my criticisms take away from that.

 

That being said, I think it incredibly often forgets to be an even serviceable video game in favor of its own Blockbuster pretension. I really wish the scale could've been tipped even ever so slightly towards a bigger focus on actually ironing out its gameplay kinks and it would've been a fucking beast of a video game for me. As it stands, it's so absurdly obsessed with style over substance, it actively offended me at many points while playing where I could just feel the snobbery drip from its pores and onto my incredibly badly-responding controller. 

 

I did have my fun with it like I've said many times but the main story quest is a failure of epic proportions as an actual video game as far as I'm concerned. I truly wondered many times why they even bothered not making the vast majority of story missions a straight-up cutscene. I actually think I would've preferred that over constantly being blue-balled. I wouldn't have minded that if you were able to completely ignore it, but the game very quickly locks tons of potential side content and upgrades behind main story quest advancement...which I get but sucks when only the side content actually lets you off your leash. 

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52 minutes ago, CayceG said:

I just finished Chapter 1 this weekend and go to the new camp near Valentine. 

 

You guys are bumming me out about these issues I have yet to experience. :P

 

 

For real though, is there anything I need to know in terms of tips and tricks to get the most out of the game at this early stage? When I played RDR I did all the side quests available as soon as possible and saved hunting/gathering to the end. Should I alter that methodology? Also, are there any absolute DON'TS out there that I should keep in mind? In terms of reputation, what's the consequence of having a bad one?

 

I literally bought this game Friday and played it for like 3 hours that night. I'm digging the story and characters so far, but not everyone is engrained in my mind yet. The older guy you ride in the wagon with coming down off the mountain, and the black/native american man you hunt with at first both seem pretty awesome. 

Also there's a YouTube video I posted a couple of pages back that has control settings that you may like. Makes the game play more like a typical first person shooter.

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6 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Also there's a YouTube video I posted a couple of pages back that has control settings that you may like. Makes the game play more like a typical first person shooter.

@CayceG You should definitely follow his advice and check all the advice articles/videos out there in regards to changing control schemes right off the bat. 

 

The defaults are mind-blowingly shit and the commonly-agreed-on "better" changes definitely majorly improve the game's handling. It's still subpar and cumbersome as hell in many ways, but vastly better than the defaults. 

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Thanks!

 

I'll definitely update the controls. I don't have too many problems with them at the moment. I'm trying to remember how they were on the old RDR, and also get used to playing on a PS4 controller, since I had RDR on the 360. 

 

 

The other question I have -- and this may be very simple and I just haven't explored my options enough to find it -- is the War Horse and that outfit code I got with my game. I applied the code, but how do I redeem the horse/outfit? Do I have to go into town or something?

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Fuck updating the aim controls. Lean into the auto aim and lock on, and realize that the game is meaningfully more entertaining when you lock on then flick up and pull to headshot. No other part of the game requires precise control, aiming should be no different. I’ll bother fucking around with that when it comes to PC. :p

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12 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

Fuck updating the aim controls. Lean into the auto aim and lock on, and realize that the game is meaningfully more entertaining when you lock on then flick up and pull to headshot. No other part of the game requires precise control, aiming should be no different. I’ll bother fucking around with that when it comes to PC. :p

 

This is how I play. Auto-aim and tilt up for the headshot. It's literally how I played RDR. 

 

I switched into the FPS mode like once and that just isn't how I want to play this game. I'll check the video later, but I'm just hoping to try out some movement alterations as opposed to aiming.

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25 minutes ago, CayceG said:

Thanks!

 

I'll definitely update the controls. I don't have too many problems with them at the moment. I'm trying to remember how they were on the old RDR, and also get used to playing on a PS4 controller, since I had RDR on the 360. 

 

 

The other question I have -- and this may be very simple and I just haven't explored my options enough to find it -- is the War Horse and that outfit code I got with my game. I applied the code, but how do I redeem the horse/outfit? Do I have to go into town or something?

 

The Outfit will be in your wardrobe and the Horse will be in the first stable you visit I believe. Either that or it's at camp and you are told to sell it or keep it... I forget. There' a horse at the base camp that you are told to sell but I kept it.

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