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1 hour ago, Brick said:

Guy's been a loon for a while. 

This is underselling it. He pops up on my Twitter timeline from time to time, and his posts are like an AI that's just been fed straight 4chan for 10 years. 

 

He makes Kevin Sorbo look like he's actually making decent points. 

 

I'm surprised it's taken this long for publications to drop him. Wonder if maybe contracts finally expired. 

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55 minutes ago, ThreePi said:

I loved Dilbert growing up and owned multiple Dilbert books. It really is quite insane how someone could descend into full, mask-off racist like this. It just doesn't seem natural.

Seeing some people close to me go off the deep end, common factor is social media (mainly Facebook). Shit has twister their minds. 

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3 minutes ago, Brian said:

Seeing some people close to me go off the deep end, common factor is social media (mainly Facebook). Shit has twister their minds. 

In all seriousness, I wonder if this really is a big part of it. It seems like it's a general lack of critical thinking, skepticism, or scientific thinking skills, and so when they get fed a line of bullshit (e.g. on Facebook), they're unable to argue back. 

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1 minute ago, Nokra said:

In all seriousness, I wonder if this really is a big part of it. It seems like it's a general lack of critical thinking, skepticism, or scientific thinking skills, and so when they get fed a line of bullshit (e.g. on Facebook), they're unable to argue back. 

The people who got impacted the most by social media are the people who didn’t grow up with the internet in my life. They are the generation that is used to believing in what got written in the papers by educated reporters. Now they think whatever is written on the internet is similar in nature and devour it as fact. 

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2 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said:

The fact that Dilbert largely got its comedy from the idea that upper management is aloof and incompetent yet Adams became a huge Trump dick rider is… something.  

Yeah, I'm still as confused on that today as I was when he first started spewing some Q-anon shit. Granted I know nothing of him outside his work on Dilbert(Specifically during the 90s when it was much more popular). It's one of those Orson Scott Card situations where the author's views just make you think 'How the fudgeknuckles did you write this material, but then come to THAT conclusion irl!?'

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21 hours ago, Brian said:

Seeing some people close to me go off the deep end, common factor is social media (mainly Facebook). Shit has twister their minds. 

 

21 hours ago, Nokra said:

In all seriousness, I wonder if this really is a big part of it. It seems like it's a general lack of critical thinking, skepticism, or scientific thinking skills, and so when they get fed a line of bullshit (e.g. on Facebook), they're unable to argue back. 


This is part of why I don’t talk as much politics on social media. I care about it a lot, but I feel it just leads to anger, trolling, and negativity. I’ve found social media to be a better experience by using it the way it started — keeping in touch, posting photos, and hell, I did some mental health checks for friends during the height of the pandemic.

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44 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

 


This is part of why I don’t talk as much politics on social media. I care about it a lot, but I feel it just leads to anger, trolling, and negativity. I’ve found social media to be a better experience by using it the way it started — keeping in touch, posting photos, and hell, I did some mental health checks for friends during the height of the pandemic.

I have altered filters to keep those types of posts to a minimum but can’t do much about friends reposting the garbage.  It’s really hard to reconcile people’s beliefs especially when you think they were not like this when you were growing up.

 

I personally have no social media. I have lost touch with people that I wish I could find and see how they are done. I actually bumped into an old childhood friend that I haven’t seen since high school. It was one my favorite nights in recent memory.  Catching up. Sharing struggles and successes. We meet up monthly now for drinks. 

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1 hour ago, SaysWho? said:

I’ve found social media to be a better experience by using it the way it started — keeping in touch, posting photos, and hell, I did some mental health checks for friends during the height of the pandemic.

I almost kinda do the opposite. I try and treat my social media like a professional account, and not something personal. Doesn't hurt that I run various professional social media accounts for organizations, so I just run it like it was just another set of social media accounts I'm in charge of. It helps me to not get caught up in publicly posting things or getting into arguments that I'll regret later and/or ruin my mental health. Especially as people intentionally tag me in things to get a rise out of me. I just think 'Would the board members of Shader Inc be happy with me if I responded to this?' and when the answer is 'no' then I don't respond.

 

I also have a secret Facebook that has like less than 30 people atm on it instead of the almost 1k on my original main Facebook. That kinda helps.

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On 2/26/2023 at 12:11 AM, Nokra said:

In all seriousness, I wonder if this really is a big part of it. It seems like it's a general lack of critical thinking, skepticism, or scientific thinking skills, and so when they get fed a line of bullshit (e.g. on Facebook), they're unable to argue back. 

 

It's all those factors and probably some known unknowns and some unknown unknowns . My therapist taught me how to live and people that don't I can see with my naked eye if they were in another galaxy and I could only see them with the James Webb Telescope. A person isn't smart if they can read a book or an opinion piece. A person is smart because they can read, comprehend something well enough to teach someone else, and can figure out how to prove or disprove an idea. 

 

For example I'm a socialist because of a multitude of reasons that all make logical sense and feed into each other. I'm a socialist because I haven't seen anyone take an atleast casual scientific view on human civilization. I learned what questions to ask about a given topic from studying Marx and I figured out hey this makes sense to me. I determine it's true every day I face a problem because that same thought process gives me solutions to my problems. If it wasn't objectively true or have enough truth to be valuable it wouldn't be worth my time pursing someone based on the conclusions I can draw by trying to interpret their actions and not their words. If a person's words and actions don't match up then the actions by the virtue of being an actionable deed tells you what they really want. 

 

So in summary I guess a person is smart not by having the best quotes to throw at any given situation but they need to be able to explain why it applies and be able to help someone else apply it to their lives. Remember you have to put your oxygen mask first on a plane before you can help others.

 

 

 

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There was a point during the pandemic where I started to wonder about Adams because his whole humor was based on office culture, yet office culture was being destroyed all over the place. And then to make things worse, due to his career success, he wasn't even able to make commentary on the changed work environment because he no longer spoke like the sarcastic critic of the work place as he hadn't been in a work place in ages.

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58 minutes ago, brucoe said:

There was a point during the pandemic where I started to wonder about Adams

 

y were u thinking about him at all doe

 

29 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

I'm most surprised that it took so long for his outspoken awfulness to finally catch up to him. I generally avoided any news item with his name on it, but I thought he'd been saying terrible things on the regular for years.

 

Not that I was paying much attention to him either but I think calling black people a hate group is the first time he's completely unambiguously crossed the line past just being an unlikable belligerent dickhead.

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1 minute ago, stepee said:

It’s just wild to me these guys who like just fucking hate Black people yet the thing that gets them most upset is being called a racist.

 

It’s like it I ate a ham sandwich every day I don’t get to complain if someone tells me that I eat pork.


People think that if their objective claims about a group are true, their subjective assessments of those groups are also true.

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Just now, sblfilms said:


People think that if their objective claims about a group are true, their subjective assessments of those groups are also true.

 

But if they know they don’t like Black people then what is the objection to being called racist? Is it that they don’t believe racism involves hating another race? Or is it that it’s not racism then if you are saying something negative about a race that you believe is true? So you can be a non racist that dislikes other races due to your perceived “correct assessment” of the race just being kinda shit?

 

I mean I personally think the answer is that they just believe that anything besides using the “n word” in public is not being racist since “light racism” and systemic racism has been accepted for so long. And that since they put their entire heart and soul into avoiding that word in public, they feel they have a hard earned right to not be labeled as racist. 

 

But it’s still just one of those weird things that if I think about it, it kind of hurts my head how they don’t consider themselves racist and you’ll never be able to get a straight answer out of anyone besides maybe a klan member. They do openly admit they are racist right?

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2 minutes ago, stepee said:

But if they know they don’t like Black people then what is the objection to being called racist? Is it that they don’t believe racism involves hating another race? Or is it that it’s not racism then if you are saying something negative about a race that you believe is true? So you can be a non racist that dislikes other races due to your perceived “correct assessment” of the race just being kinda shit?


Yes, they think subjective assessment is validated by the objective measurement. Racism would be hating the people because they are a different race. Hating them because of their actions isn’t racist in their view.

 

Like, I once had a conversation with a guy who couldn’t believe I said he was holding bigoted views when he said that Hispanic people should all pay higher interest rates on loans because, in the aggregate, Hispanic people default more frequently on loans.

 

When I explained that they don’t default *because* they are Hispanic, and thus it would be unfair to charge ALL Hispanic people higher rates, he just couldn’t understand it because theoretically it is a good business practice even if it is obviously bigoted too.

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4 minutes ago, sblfilms said:


Yes, they think subjective assessment is validated by the objective measurement. Racism would be hating the people because they are a different race. Hating them because of their actions isn’t racist in their view.

 

Like, I once had a conversation with a guy who couldn’t believe I said he was holding bigoted views when he said that Hispanic people should all pay higher interest rates on loans because, in the aggregate, Hispanic people default more frequently on loans.

 

When I explained that they don’t default *because* they are Hispanic, and thus it would be unfair to charge ALL Hispanic people higher rates, he just couldn’t understand it because theoretically it is a good business practice even if it is obviously bigoted too.

 

That’s just fucking insane to me!

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1 hour ago, stepee said:

 

That’s just fucking insane to me!

 

Honestly, people apply that same sort of poor thinking to all manner of things. It is just most troublesome when applied to human beings.

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Well yeah it’s like people even accidentally kill little things all the time but kill an elephant and it’s all oh but he was such a cute little baby

 

lol actually that metaphor doesn’t work but it’s cute so I’m leaving it but what I mean is just that you’d hope that with people they would take more consideration and rethink their logic but i guess that they don’t is part of the whole thing.

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