CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Nate Silver and FiveThirtyEight Are on ABC’s Chopping Block WWW.THEDAILYBEAST.COM In this week’s edition of Confider, we report how ABC News is considering offloading the star data journalist and his famed website. They do interesting work...but I also question their integrity with how they weighted polls in the 2022 midterms. Plus Nate is a real dillweed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 538 analysis is just meh and has been for some time. There’s election twitter users who do better work and analysis for free, and have been for some time best one stop shop for aggregation of polls I’ve seen however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 538 is just being shut down because Puerto Rico will become a state. 540 will rise from the ashes and save us all! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Article makes it seem as if they'll sell it, not necessarily shut it down, which has happened a few times now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 hours ago, mclumber1 said: 538 is just being shut down because Puerto Rico will become a state. 540 will rise from the ashes and save us all! This would be a great excuse to expand the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Nate Silver and FiveThirtyEight Are on ABC’s Chopping Block WWW.THEDAILYBEAST.COM In this week’s edition of Confider, we report how ABC News is considering offloading the star data journalist and his famed website. They do interesting work...but I also question their integrity with how they weighted polls in the 2022 midterms. Plus Nate is a real dillweed. What specifically makes you question their integrity? To my knowledge Silver has always been pretty transparent about the weights applied in his model. But my knowledge of him might not be that deep, I only read 538 every once in awhile and look at how his predictions shake out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: What specifically makes you question their integrity? To my knowledge Silver has always been pretty transparent about the weights applied in his model. But my knowledge of him might not be that deep, I only read 538 every once in awhile and look at how his predictions shake out. They gave more weight to bad pollsters in the last cycle than was warranted (e.g. Rasmussen). As a person, Nate Silver thinks that because he is an expert at stats, that makes him an expert at anything. He's made questionable comments about COVID-19 and other things. He intimated that "liberal elites" pushed to keep the vaccine from being released until after the 2020 election, and he also said that temporary school closures due to COVID were as harmful as the Iraq War. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Questioning a guy’s integrity while making a false thread title sure is something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe said: Questioning a guy’s integrity while making a false thread title sure is something! I am also being shut down by ABC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: As a person, Nate Silver thinks that because he is an expert at stats, that makes him an expert at anything. lets not cast stones here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I appreciate having access to 538's sports ELO models -- hopefully they keep running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: lets not cast stones here Pineapple == great pizza topping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Pineapple == great pizza topping Riley == bant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 You know what's good? Putting peanut butter on pancakes. Slather a thick layer of creamy peanut butter on your pancake, and then pour syrup over that. Delicious. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: You know what's good? Putting peanut butter on pancakes. Slather a thick layer of creamy peanut butter on your pancake, and then pour syrup over that. Delicious. Put honey on pancakes, much better than syrup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Put honey on pancakes, much better than syrup. For Americans that have only ever used table syrup, also try real maple syrup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Table syrup is truly disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I'm pretty sure most Americans have tried real maple syrup. It's on the shelf next to the table syrup. We get it from Costco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 When we lived in upstate NY, we'd go to the pancake houses in the late winter/early spring and enjoy freshly made (distilled?) maple syrup with all you can eat pancakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: For Americans that have only ever used table syrup, also try real maple syrup. Try not being Canadian! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I would be disappointed if 538 were to go away or shrink significantly. Yeah, Silver is a questionable presence on Twitter, but I like the content on the site. They're very transparent in how they model things, even if some of it doesn't work out. I think it's good to see high effort attempts at forecasting and statistics. I think it's only a problem when people treat a 538 forecast as something sacred absolute. I especially like a lot of what they do with sports numbers, because it's educational on how statistics and data analysis work, but the stakes are non-existent. Reading through how they rank the best whatever of all time makes it clear how many decision points you come across, even when you're "just following the numbers". The one thing that does surprise me is that the site has never been profitable. I feel like their numbers get brought up a lot in the discourse around elections, but I guess that doesn't drive enough traffic, or they're just not great at monetizing that traffic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I would be disappointed if 538 were to go away or shrink significantly. Yeah, Silver is a questionable presence on Twitter, but I like the content on the site. They're very transparent in how they model things, even if some of it doesn't work out. I think it's good to see high effort attempts at forecasting and statistics. I think it's only a problem when people treat a 538 forecast as something sacred absolute. I especially like a lot of what they do with sports numbers, because it's educational on how statistics and data analysis work, but the stakes are non-existent. Reading through how they rank the best whatever of all time makes it clear how many decision points you come across, even when you're "just following the numbers". The one thing that does surprise me is that the site has never been profitable. I feel like their numbers get brought up a lot in the discourse around elections, but I guess that doesn't drive enough traffic, or they're just not great at monetizing that traffic. You'd think they would maybe license out their data to networks/etc, but I guess most networks already have their own analysts/modelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Pineapple == great pizza topping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I'm fairly certain that Disney is seriously considering spinning off ALL of ABC, not solely 538. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yes let’s discuss this again!!! I once ordered a pizza that the deal offered only one topping. I made that topping muthafuggin pineapple 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 tbh my favourite pizza is: thin crust sesame seeds on crust ranch sauce (no pizza sauce) tandoori chicken red onion Bonus if cut into squares so the flavour has nowhere to hide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 hours ago, mclumber1 said: You know what's good? Putting peanut butter on pancakes. Slather a thick layer of creamy peanut butter on your pancake, and then pour syrup over that. Delicious. you know what's really good is peanut butter on chicken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Peanut butter ramen is great too -- and incredibly quick/easy to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: For Americans that have only ever used table syrup, also try real maple syrup. Do they have sugar free real maple syrup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Honey on chicken is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I'm fairly certain that Disney is seriously considering spinning off ALL of ABC, not solely 538. Don't think so. ABC News was very profitable for them during the Pandemic. They also have several hits on the channel that aren't expensive to produce... The Bachelor and Bachelorette series... Dancing With The Stars... shit like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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