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Andrew Yang, Christine Todd Whitman, and dozens of former Republican/Democratic officials to announce formation of new "centrist" political party tomorrow called "Forward"


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24 minutes ago, Link200 said:

A three+ party system will never work in this country. Gotta get rid of the Electoral College first and we all know that is almost impossible in this current environment.

 

The EC essentially requires a two party system.

Yeah, without the ability to dismantle a coalition and trigger a new election, you can't really negotiate.  

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20 hours ago, Link200 said:

A three+ party system will never work in this country. Gotta get rid of the Electoral College first and we all know that is almost impossible in this current environment.

 

The EC essentially requires a two party system.

 

What really makes this country require two parties is heavy electoral dedication to revanchism that can only be defeated by uniting the opposition.

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23 hours ago, Link200 said:

A three+ party system will never work in this country. Gotta get rid of the Electoral College first and we all know that is almost impossible in this current environment.

 

The EC essentially requires a two party system.


Yup. In theory I’d love four viable parties, but with the electoral college and winner takes all system, this parties are irrelevant.

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The only time multiple parties have existed at the same time on a national level in this country is when an issue comes up that doesn't necessarily fit within party lines, but is so important that everyone has to draw their line in the sand.

 

The US government was essentially a one party state on a national level from 1804 to 1828-ish, when the Jacksonian Democrats split off from the rest of the party and were popular enough to win power. Then you got the Whig party, which never really had a solid platform other than "not Democrats," they basically were a loose conglomeration of anyone who didn't like Andrew Jackson. Jackson was hated by enough people that the Whigs still won the presidency twice simply on the platform of "we don't like Andrew Jackson," but they disintegrated as the party never had a consistent position on slavery, which became an issue throughout the 1850's about which everyone had to draw a line in the sand.

 

Then you had another split, with Republicans being the anti-slavery party, Southern Democrats being the slavery party, and Northern Democrats and the Constitutional Union Party being the "let's talk about this later" parties. Then, from about 1861-1880 the country once again became effectively a one-party state on a national level.

 

But for the most part, at any given time in the US, you have one party who has a platform, and the other party who campaigns on "not that." For the last 10 years or so, outside of culture war bullshit, the Republicans have been the party of "we don't know what we want other than Democrats bad." Their whole platform has been trying to stop Democrats from doing anything and distracting people with culture war bullshit to disguise the fact that they don't actually have any kind of plan for government.

 

For most of my life up until 2010-ish, the Democrats were that party. They didn't necessarily have a plan other than "not Republicans." It's crazy to think about how much the culture war rhetoric has ramped up over the last 20 years. I wonder if something happened around 2008-2010 that changed that...

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