marioandsonic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Not sure what brand or model EV I would get. I currently have a 2012 Ford Focus, so I don't need anything real fancy or powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Not sure what brand or model EV I would get. I currently have a 2012 Ford Focus, so I don't need anything real fancy or powerful. Get the Chevy Bolt. I'm waiting for the Blazer myself. The First-Ever Blazer EV: Electric SUV | Chevrolet WWW.CHEVROLET.COM Discover the First-Ever Chevrolet Blazer EV Electric SUV, a complete package built from the ground up around the advanced Ultium battery platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 17 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Go right ahead and vote against a bill intended to bring back high-quality manufacturing jobs to the United States, House GOP. Knock yourselves out! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Not sure what brand or model EV I would get. I currently have a 2012 Ford Focus, so I don't need anything real fancy or powerful. I can help you with that https://www.audiusa.com/us/web/en/models/e-tron/e-tron-gt/2022/overview.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 You can see if they will allow you to extend your lease another 6-12 months. This way you can buy the EV in 2023 with the new credits. If you want to buy now then probably the Chevy bolt will be your best option. Chevy is giving out decent financing (2.5/60mths). Kona and Niro will be hard to find. Niro is getting a refresh in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Littleronin said: Dealerships need to die in this country. It's amazing how car dealerships are pretty much universally hated yet Americans go absolutely fucking ballistic if you propose policies that mean they'd never have to deal with a car dealership ever again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Not sure what brand or model EV I would get. I currently have a 2012 Ford Focus, so I don't need anything real fancy or powerful. I wish Stellantis would sell the new electric 500 in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jason said: It's amazing how car dealerships are pretty much universally hated yet Americans go absolutely fucking ballistic if you propose policies that mean they'd never have to deal with a car dealership ever again. Because for some damn reason we have it in our collective heads that if you can't go to the dealership you can't get vehicle. Dealerships are one of the last bastions of brick and mortar being conceived as better for the customer. Even though it is also widely considered a cesspool of scam artists that nickel and dime customers with bullshit upcharges that you have to fight tooth and nail to avoid paying. So in the end it is not better for the customer, we as a society have just duped ourselves into thinking it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 46 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: You can see if they will allow you to extend your lease another 6-12 months. This way you can buy the EV in 2023 with the new credits. If you want to buy now then probably the Chevy bolt will be your best option. Chevy is giving out decent financing (2.5/60mths). Kona and Niro will be hard to find. Niro is getting a refresh in 2023. I was going to to look into the Bolt or maybe the new Equinox as I don't need anything super crazy. I really need to accept that 95% of my driving is done within 10 miles of my house and I don't need to go 0-60 in 3 seconds or ride in luxury. What's going on with the credits, would it be better to just wait until next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Dealerships need to die because their owned by the landed gentry who vote Republican and run for office as republicans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Gonna pull the trigger and sell our second car as soon as we get back from Denver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Littleronin said: Because for some damn reason we have it in our collective heads that if you can't go to the dealership you can't get vehicle. Dealerships are one of the last bastions of brick and mortar being conceived as better for the customer. Even though it is also widely considered a cesspool of scam artists that nickel and dime customers with bullshit upcharges that you have to fight tooth and nail to avoid paying. So in the end it is not better for the customer, we as a society have just duped ourselves into thinking it is. I was talking about ending car dependency doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dodger said: I was going to to look into the Bolt or maybe the new Equinox as I don't need anything super crazy. I really need to accept that 95% of my driving is done within 10 miles of my house and I don't need to go 0-60 in 3 seconds or ride in luxury. What's going on with the credits, would it be better to just wait until next year? From what I understand, the tax credits going into effect if you buy a vehicle in 2023 or later. Which sucks for me, because my current car needs new tires, but I don't want to pay for new ones if I'm just going to get a new car a few months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remarkableriots Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: From what I understand, the tax credits going into effect if you buy a vehicle in 2023 or later. Which sucks for me, because my current car needs new tires, but I don't want to pay for new ones if I'm just going to get a new car a few months later. Get some used tires if you don't want to pay for new tires. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: Get some used tires if you don't want to pay for new tires. Best use for used tires: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I’ve put 14k miles on my truck in the 3 years I’ve had it. Husband works remotely and his 2011 Camry is around 57k miles. No sense in us buying new vehicles anytime soon. And I’ll always have a truck. Am gonna need new tires before super long, though. I don’t really look forward to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ominous Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 21 hours ago, Jason said: Let's see if GM sticks with the Bolt price drop they announced, since I think that was decided to make up for the lack of EV credit eligibility. Will be really interesting if they stick to dropping it to $26k and then you can get the $7500 on top of that. Can't wait for my lease to be up in 2 years lol. By then I can fit all three in a sedan again, or perhaps other affordable options will exist too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Littleronin said: Dealerships need to die in this country. Only a matter of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 @Joe your boy is at it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Good job for the DNC for standing by an obvious crook even when it's a safe seat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: @Joe your boy is at it again The worst! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 How secret negotiations revived Joe Biden's agenda and shocked Washington WWW.CNN.COM It was the middle of the night in Saudi Arabia when word emerged from Washington that President Joe Biden's long-stalled domestic agenda was dead. So... Larry Summers did a good thing here. Quote Meanwhile, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers — who issued early warnings about inflation last year, often to the irritation of the Biden administration — also privately reached out to Manchin to argue the deal would not add to inflation but would instead be deflationary. Summers declined to comment on his private conversations during an interview on CNN, though offered reassurance to counter worries that the bill could add to inflation. “This bill is fighting inflation and it’s got a whole set of collateral benefits as well,” he said on “New Day.” Other Senators were working Manchin, including Hickenlooper, Coons, Schatz, and Smith: Quote Summers wasn’t alone in working Manchin behind the scenes. Democratic Sen. John Hickenlooper of Colorado told reporters he and his staff were getting analysis of the tax and climate deal from economists at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. “We knew that (Manchin) trusted Wharton, that he’d used that for modeling before,” Hickenlooper told reporters. “So, we asked them to model this. We did that and got back modeling that said this is not inflationary in any way, and we sent that to Joe.” Hickenlooper said he was trying to add to a drumbeat of voices trying to convince Manchin the deal would bring down inflation. Other senators – including Smith, Sens. Brian Schatz of Hawaii and Chris Coons of Delaware — were making similar arguments, Hickenlooper added. And Schumer wants this passed by the end of next week. Really wish Sinema and Menendez would come out in full favor: Quote Despite their celebrations Thursday, Democrats face what is likely still an uphill climb in securing enough support for the package, even among members of their own party. Speaking behind closed doors Thursday, Schumer told Democrats they were on the precipice of passing items they’d been talking about for years. “It will require us to stick together and work long days and nights for the next 10 days,” he said. “We will need to be disciplined in our messaging and focus. It will be hard.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 15 hours ago, Littleronin said: Because for some damn reason we have it in our collective heads that if you can't go to the dealership you can't get vehicle. Dealerships are one of the last bastions of brick and mortar being conceived as better for the customer. Even though it is also widely considered a cesspool of scam artists that nickel and dime customers with bullshit upcharges that you have to fight tooth and nail to avoid paying. So in the end it is not better for the customer, we as a society have just duped ourselves into thinking it is. I think there are a lot of people out there convinced that they were able to work a better deal for their car than anyone else thanks to their superior negotiation skills with car salesmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 I feel like all these articles put the deal at risk 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: I feel like all these articles put the deal at risk Especially saying it was Cocaine Larry's idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 poor baby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 All my acts would be called Love America Act of [year] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 5:23 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: As I stated earlier, I really do get the feeling that Sinema was "in the room" (at least metaphorically) when this was negotiated between Schumer and Manchin. Our Quirky Girl Boss Qween is keeping her options open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Jason said: Our Quirky Girl Boss Qween is keeping her options open. And by preserving her options she means waiting to see if someone comes along to bribe her into tanking the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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