mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jason said: Let's see if GM sticks with the Bolt price drop they announced, since I think that was decided to make up for the lack of EV credit eligibility. Will be really interesting if they stick to dropping it to $26k and then you can get the $7500 on top of that. Shit, at under $20k I'd just pay cash and save the car for the next 4 years until our daughter gets her license. (She probably will never plug it in though, considering she never charges her phone) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 Hoping the EV6 counts as an SUV for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I'd happily get an EV for under 20k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Quote The deal also includes a cap on the suggested retail price of eligible vehicles of $55,000 for new cars and $80,000 for pickups and SUVs. Ugh dumb as shit, we shouldn't be further subsidizing absurdly enormous vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 You love to see it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Go right ahead and vote against a bill intended to bring back high-quality manufacturing jobs to the United States, House GOP. Knock yourselves out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Go right ahead and vote against a bill intended to bring back high-quality manufacturing jobs to the United States, House GOP. Knock yourselves out! lol why wouldn't House Ds vote for it But by all means exercise your 2A right to shoot yourself in the dick guys. Preferably with an AR-15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Nice for something good to happen for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: The media is gonna make manchin flip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, Jason said: Ugh dumb as shit, we shouldn't be further subsidizing absurdly enormous vehicles. Yo momma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: You love to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Looks like my Rivian R1S will be right under the cap. Pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Our oldest will be 16 in January and I’m pretty set on electric only moving forward, so whatever pushes prices down sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe said: Hoping the EV6 counts as an SUV for this. Guess this does not apply to me. Still very cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I still don't believe Schumer came up with the bait & switch. McConnell must have been like, look you idiots we have to do something, do this and I'll play along like I don't know what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Plan on getting an EV in 2023 now. The ioniq 6 looking pretty good to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: I still don't believe Schumer came up with the bait & switch. McConnell must have been like, look you idiots we have to do something, do this and I'll play along like I don't know what's going on. Mitch is the Turtle, but Chuck is the Tortoise. Slow and steady eventually wins the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, MarSolo said: Mitch is the Turtle, but Chuck is the Tortoise. Slow and steady eventually wins the race. I need to see more before I compliment Schumer on anything and I've been watching him for ages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Summary: Joe Manchin and Chuck Schumer Have a Surprise for You - The American Prospect PROSPECT.ORG An 18-month odyssey culminates in a smaller-than-promised, bigger-than-expected agreement to lower health care costs, tax corporations, and protect the planet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Republicans retaliated by voting down a veterans healthcare bill that just a few months ago go 86 votes in the senate but had to re-vote on it to fix an error and they voted against it, lol. Now you got house Dems. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Fantastic retaliation there, Senate GOP. Keep it up! Anger as Republicans block bill to help military veterans exposed to toxins | Republicans | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Jon Stewart, who has lobbied for bipartisan bill to expand healthcare for veterans, condemns ‘stab-vets-in-the-back senators’ Quote The measure, called the Honoring our Pact Act, would make it easier for veterans to access military care related to exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam and toxins from pits used to burn military waste in Iraq and Afghanistan. A version of the bill passed the Senate 84-14 earlier this year but was sent back to the House for some technical corrections. It easily passed there. But on Wednesday, 25 Republican senators who previously supported the measure declined to move it forward. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican, told CNN Republicans did not back the measure because Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, was blocking votes on amendments Republicans wanted. Cornyn also said Republicans wanted to negotiate more, in order to cut out some of the mandatory spending contained in the bill. Stewart called that justification “bullshit”. Republicans blocked the veterans measure just after Schumer, from New York, and Joe Manchin, of West Virginia, announced they had reached a deal on a sweeping tax and climate measure. The Schumer-Manchin announcement reportedly caught Republicans off guard after another big measure, to support the US semiconductor industry, passed the chamber earlier in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dodger Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Maybe you guys can help me out with what I should do regarding my vehicle situation. In 2019 I made a bad decision to lease a $60,000 truck that I definitely don't need. It's really nice, and hey twice a year or so that bed does come in handy. But it's at the top of my price range, and I currently work from home so I drive about 50 miles a week, occasionally more as I live on the outskirts of the Phoenix metro area and it's anywhere to 20-50 miles to do most things, or a good 10 miles to some things which I do once or twice a week to get out of the house. The lease is due in December and the residual is going to be about $36k. I can get a tank of gas to last me a month, more if I don't randomly go to a Diamond Backs game or something. The used car market is nuts. I looked around at the local dealers and 6 year old civics are listed at 20-25k. I saw a 2017 Yaris listed at $15k. But I think about it, and an EV with a range of even 250 miles could last me damn near a month on a single charge. So that should save me a ton of money on gas. Problem is I don't have much to work with on a down payment, and I don't know how these tax credits work. I currently pay about $670 a month for the truck and would like to get lower than that. Any EV recommendations? Or am I looking at it wrong? I don't want to lease anymore I'd prefer to just regular finance something, and keep it for the next 10-15 years. I can just refinance the truck and keep it for awhile as it looks like more options will be out in the next year or two. Or I could try waiting out the used car market until prices come down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Can you absolutely not go without two cars for a bit? If you can you could sell the car while there's still a bunch of equity above the buyout (or buy out the lease and then sell it yourself, if you have a lease where you can only return it to the manufacturer's finance--e.g. I can only sell my leased Elantra to Hyundai Motor Finance or a Hyundai dealer). Then wait for the new EV credits in 2023 (obviously wait for the bill to actually pass first) and/or used car prices to come back to earth given all the repossessions that are starting to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I only have one car, just the truck. I have been thinking about just returning and just ubering everywhere and instacarting all my groceries. Need to figure out what the difference would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Used car prices are insane, and so are new car prices if you buy them off of the lot. I special ordered my Maverick as was able to pay MSRP because that was my dealer's policy. If I would have bought it off of the lot, it would have been around $4k extra for the "market adjustment". Anyways, check if any of your local dealerships will honor MSRP for ordered vehicles. If you do buy something new, be reasonable about what you actually need. It doesn't sound like you need much in terms of size or power. Maybe a Chevy Bolt would do you well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Used car prices are insane, and so are new car prices if you buy them off of the lot. I special ordered my Maverick as was able to pay MSRP because that was my dealer's policy. If I would have bought it off of the lot, it would have been around $4k extra for the "market adjustment". Anyways, check if any of your local dealerships will honor MSRP for ordered vehicles. If you do buy something new, be reasonable about what you actually need. It doesn't sound like you need much in terms of size or power. Maybe a Chevy Bolt would do you well. I'd love to hear what you think of your Maverick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I think the used car market will be coming back down to earth with rates up and delinquencies up as well over the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I'd love to hear what you think of your Maverick. It's good! I've had it since December and have put around 4000 miles on it. I have the 4wd ecoboost model, so I average in the low 20s for gas mileage, but have gotten over 30 on dedicated highway trips. The hybrid gets over 40mpg in the city, but they are pretty hard to come by from what I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: It's good! I've had it since December and have put around 4000 miles on it. I have the 4wd ecoboost model, so I average in the low 20s for gas mileage, but have gotten over 30 on dedicated highway trips. The hybrid gets over 40mpg in the city, but they are pretty hard to come by from what I understand. Very cool. If I didn't have an 08 Ranger with plenty of life left in it I'd be looking at a Maverick. As it stands now I'm actually looking at getting an F-150 at some point to fit the family and dogs for road trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Dealerships need to die in this country. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Very cool. If I didn't have an 08 Ranger with plenty of life left in it I'd be looking at a Maverick. As it stands now I'm actually looking at getting an F-150 at some point to fit the family and dogs for road trips. I downgraded from an F-150 to the Maverick. I didn't need the room and I never used it to tow, so it worked out well. Plus they gave me more money for my F-150 trade-in than what the new Maverick cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I downgraded from an F-150 to the Maverick. I didn't need the room and I never used it to tow, so it worked out well. Plus they gave me more money for my F-150 trade-in than what the new Maverick cost. Nice. I got three little ones and two dogs. The Maverick would be a little cramped for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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