SaysWho? Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Following Manchin’s stated interest in limiting a party-line domestic policy bill to health care and lowering prescription drug prices, Democrats were expecting to pursue a bill that did not include climate or energy provisions. But Manchin and Schumer quietly continued negotiating behind the scenes, mostly through staff, leading to a surprise breakthrough while Manchin was sidelined with Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Also, they're submitting this to the parliamentarian tonight so we won't have to wait long to find out if everything passes that muster. Found in this article: Manchin and Schumer announce surprise deal on climate, health care and tax package WWW.CBSNEWS.COM The announcement came hours after the passage of a bill incentivizing semiconductor chip production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Wait, what are the climate details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: So when do they vote on it? Going to the floor next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Wait, what are the climate details? More climate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Moderate-ism to the rescue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: More climate The best climate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 So basically Manchin almost died from covid and his near death visions of hell scared him straight, nice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Jason said: Apparently McConnell only agreed to do the chips bill if reconciliation was off the table...so possibly actually Chuck and Joe snookering Mitch? The one thing I know about Joe manchin is that he fucking hates Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chris- said: Evergreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Hell, I almost get a sense of "grudging" respect from the Republicans here! It's not just grudging respect but tightening the screws on legitimizing power plays. Problem for Mitch is that the end of the road there is the end of the filibuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 sleepy Joe getting things done. Can’t wait for the wet blankets to find a way to shit on this. 1 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: What about electric bikes doe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Hope it's true but waiting for the rug pull 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 As I stated earlier, I really do get the feeling that Sinema was "in the room" (at least metaphorically) when this was negotiated between Schumer and Manchin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: As I stated earlier, I really do get the feeling that Sinema was "in the room" (at least metaphorically) when this was negotiated between Schumer and Manchin. GenX slacker style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jason said: What about electric bikes doe. Manchin is known to have a deep seated hatred for bicycles. And that's one of the reasons why there is a tax rebate for unicycles and tricycles in this bill - but bike owners can go fuck themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Text is available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Text is available! 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Nothing like 725 pages on a Wednesday night, mario. LFG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 In that txt: tax credits for electric vehicles are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Nothing like 725 pages on a Wednesday night, mario. LFG less messy than cutting yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 The EV tax credit going away for manufacturers who sell over X number of vehicles was bad policy, IMO. If that is removed, that is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: In that txt: tax credits for electric vehicles are in. Does that include electric bikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Hooooold up, this bill would get rid of having to file through Turbotax??? LFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: In that txt: tax credits for electric vehicles are in. It’s already $7,500! Hopefully refundable now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TUFKAK Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 I just, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: The EV tax credit going away for manufacturers who sell over X number of vehicles was bad policy, IMO. If that is removed, that is good. Si señor! Bloomberg - Are you a robot? WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Bwahahaha!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, SimpleG said: I apologize for not understanding but how did they get screwed? BBB included $150b-400b to clear the Medicaid Home Care waiting lists and raise wages, 1.2 million disabled people are on them and they last 15 years in some states. Those with home care have caregivers making low wages or no caregivers. This is the group that got hit the hardest by COVID in terms direct health risk and turned a system that was an already sinking ship into a sinking ship on fire. This was pretty much the disabled community's only ask and is even more critical with SCOTUS about to gut the ADA to only cover intentional discrimination, once that happens Olmstead by extension falls. Olmstead is the legal requirement that state at least attempt to provide home care instead of just locking people into institutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Joe said: Si señor! Bloomberg - Are you a robot? WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM Let's see if GM sticks with the Bolt price drop they announced, since I think that was decided to make up for the lack of EV credit eligibility. Will be really interesting if they stick to dropping it to $26k and then you can get the $7500 on top of that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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