skillzdadirecta Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I wonder if there is any data on active users vs people who just have accounts. I have a twitter account but almost never use it. I'm definitely not an active user but I wonder if my account and accounts like mine counts towards any valuations the company has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I wonder if there is any data on active users vs people who just have accounts. I have a twitter account but almost never use it. I'm definitely not an active user but I wonder if my account and accounts like mine counts towards any valuations the company has done. Internally they know as they've sliced and diced their user analytics. They sent me emails all the time about my idle account that now was a great time to come back and use the app (well not anymore since I closed the account recently). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Elon, you can't dangle the dream to Donny and then do this, it's just cruel... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 9 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Stick to rockets Elon. You are good at that. We know that tunnels aren’t his thing, that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 wut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: wut He's so fucking stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: wut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 I'm so happy this deal is falling through. The last thing we need is the fucking circus back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Is there an open manhole he can fall into? Please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Well well well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 What a baby: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Well well well So he's admitting he's intentionally trying to tank their stock to pick them up on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Don't worry he'll save $8 billion on the deal and get a record $7 million FCC fine or something. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Elon Musk says Twitter deal ‘cannot move forward’ until it proves bot numbers WWW.THEVERGE.COM Twitter thinks 5 percent maximum, Musk thinks 20 percent minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 This is what you get for taking a stock-lucky fuckboi at his word. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Musk says $44 billion Twitter deal on hold over fake account data WWW.REUTERS.COM Musk is entitled to ask for information on its operations following the signing of the deal, but this is meant to help him prepare for his ownership of Twitter, not to carry out due diligence and reopen negotiations. Quote Musk, the world's richest person, decided to waive due diligence when he agreed to buy Twitter on April 25, in an effort to get the San Francisco-based company to accept his "best and final offer." Get your sicko.gifs ready for the prospect that Twitter sues Musk for backing out of the deal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I'd be happy if Twitter cleans house with regards to bots and the algorithm if it means Musk has to pay a $1 billion penalty. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Twitter turns the tables on Musk, will “enforce” merger WWW.AXIOS.COM “We intend to close the transaction and enforce the merger agreement,” Twitter’s board said Tuesday. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I think Musk is probably right that Twitter is lying about the bot numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Shouldn't have waived his due diligence then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: I think Musk is probably right that Twitter is lying about the bot numbers Social media companies lying about their metrics is kind of what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 ban musk from twitter you damn cowards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TwinIon Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 16 hours ago, sblfilms said: I think Musk is probably right that Twitter is lying about the bot numbers Lying might be a bit harsh. As Parag lays out in this thread that was linked above, they do work on the problem, and I believe him, because at the end of the day it is a product issue. The experience is worse if they don't address bots, so they certainly put some effort in. As Parag mentions, it's also a difficult and evolving problem. No one has solved spam on an open platform, so I don't know why anyone would expect Twitter to have done so. However, the framing of spam as a product and user experience problem doesn't imply they work that hard on getting entirely accurate numbers. They're incentivized to catch the bots that make the experience worse for users, but not very incentivized to find bots that are harmless and just boosting numbers. I doubt they have hidden numbers somewhere indicating the "real" percent of bot accounts, but they probably don't try too hard to figure that out beyond what is required for due diligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 minute ago, TwinIon said: Lying might be a bit harsh. As Parag lays out in this thread that was linked above, they do work on the problem, and I believe him, because at the end of the day it is a product issue. The experience is worse if they don't address bots, so they certainly put some effort in. As Parag mentions, it's also a difficult and evolving problem. No one has solved spam on an open platform, so I don't know why anyone would expect Twitter to have done so. However, the framing of spam as a product and user experience problem doesn't imply they work that hard on getting entirely accurate numbers. They're incentivized to catch the bots that make the experience worse for users, but not very incentivized to find bots that are harmless and just boosting numbers. I doubt they have hidden numbers somewhere indicating the "real" percent of bot accounts, but they probably don't try too hard to figure that out beyond what is required for due diligence. I’d agree with this, and also add that it seems likely that the majority of casual users simply don’t know that bots are a thing / problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 My Twitter feed is losing their collective shit over this post, but it's pretty clear to me that he's just trying to get out of the purchase of Twitter. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chollowa said: My Twitter feed is losing their collective shit over this post, but it's pretty clear to me that he's just trying to get out of the purchase of Twitter. Right? This in and of itself isn't evidence of him wanting out, but the issue of the "true" value of Twitter vis-a-vis its bot situation is. And besides, I doubt anyone seriously believes that he's voted for Democrats in years anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 He is his own dirty tricks campaign. He gets publicly owned so much which is weird because he's always been a champion of libertarian ideals. No wonder he's voting GOP. And I don't believe he ever didn't vote GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Chollowa said: My Twitter feed is losing their collective shit over this post, but it's pretty clear to me that he's just trying to get out of the purchase of Twitter. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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