The official thread of SCOTUS cementing the US as a theocractic fascist state.

[Guest]

While our guns laws are inadequate to say the very least, it isn’t as though no gun laws are allowed. We have many, even in states like Texas.

 

For example, I think Skillz asked if restrictions on taking firearms into businesses is permissible, and yes, they are. TX in the last few years expanded concealed and open carry laws and created a system of notice (a particular sign, usually referred to as 30.06 and 30.07 signage) that a business must place next to the public entry doors to the establishment if guns are not allowed on site.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

1 hour ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Sure - but it would still require you to go out and purchase a printing press and all of the supplies needed to print what you wanted to be distributed. 

Yeah we should nationalize Ben franklins printer too

[Jason]

I think at this point we can conclude SCOTUS is actively trying to incite a civil war.

[Anathema-]

1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

What other rights are beholden to private companies? Nationalize all the guns manufacturers 

 

And federal abortion providers in every state

[mclumber1]

25 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

While our guns laws are inadequate to say the very least, it isn’t as though no gun laws are allowed. We have many, even in states like Texas.

 

For example, I think Skillz asked if restrictions on taking firearms into businesses is permissible, and yes, they are. TX in the last few years expanded concealed and open carry laws and created a system of notice (a particular sign, usually referred to as 30.06 and 30.07 signage) that a business must place next to the public entry doors to the establishment if guns are not allowed on site.

 

30.06 signs also carry force of law on their own from what I understand.  Not only can a person be kicked out for trespassing, they can be prosecuted for violating the 30.06 ordinance.  In many states all law enforcement can do is ask you to leave because the business doesn't allow guns.  That's the way it is in Nevada. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, mclumber1 said:

 

30.06 signs also carry force of law on their own from what I understand.  Not only can a person be kicked out for trespassing, they can be prosecuted for violating the 30.06 ordinance.  In many states all law enforcement can do is ask you to leave because the business doesn't allow guns.  That's the way it is in Nevada. 

Correct, it’s a separate offense to violate the 30.06/.07 signage so long as they are properly formatted (which isn’t difficult, a million places to get cheap compliant signs).

[Kal-El814]

Slap some of them sumbitches on the "welcome to" signs on the state border and call it a fucking day.

[Ricofoley]

8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

 

Somebody tried to make their voice heard on the Roe ruling by drawing chalk on the sidewalk outside of Susan Collins' house and they got the cops called on them for doing so

[CitizenVectron]

Was this posted? Some here doubted it a week ago:

 

 

Edit - to be clear, unmirandized statements still can't be used...but if they are anyway, you can't sue the cops for getting evidence that way. Which means there is less incentive for police to provide the warning.

[CayceG]

No one should ever talk to the police, ever. 

[BloodyHell]

7 hours ago, CayceG said:

No one should ever talk to the police, ever. 

THIS!

Seriously, so many idiots think cops are just doing their job and wouldn't screw THEM over. Say nothing. I learned at 19 that the cops aren't on your side. Long story, but fuck them, they don't care if you aren't guilty, only that you don't have an alibi. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Only an hour until roe is overturned 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

One more thing

 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

22 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Only an hour until roe is overturned 

 

Knowing the bastards, they'll probably wait until the end of the session next week.

[legend]

10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

One more thing

 

 

Is that actually true? And if it's true, is it still true after accounting for voter suppression efforts by republicans?

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

18 minutes ago, legend said:

 

Is that actually true? And if it's true, is it still true after accounting for voter suppression efforts by republicans?

There’s literally no other choice outside of violence and no one actually wants that

[Chris-]

3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

There’s literally no other choice outside of violence and no one actually wants that

You serious Clark?

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

16 minutes ago, Chris- said:

You serious Clark?

[CitizenVectron]

 

[Kal-El814]

1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

One more thing

 

 

This is… not a good take. Voter turnout in America is terrible across the board, it’s just slightly less so for Republicans to an extent that impacts things. I don’t think that is just a semantic nitpick; Democrats have won almost every national popular election in my lifetime. At some point it becomes reasonable for Sisyphus to complain about pushing the rock up the hill, especially when Zeus is right there and could do something.

 

And not for nothing but Manchin and Sinema are like… right there. Democrats DID show up.

[Jason]

15 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

This is… not a good take. Voter turnout in America is terrible across the board, it’s just slightly less so for Republicans to an extent that impacts things. I don’t think that is just a semantic nitpick; Democrats have won almost every national popular election in my lifetime. At some point it becomes reasonable for Sisyphus to complain about pushing the rock up the hill, especially when Zeus is right there and could do something.

 

And not for nothing but Manchin and Sinema are like… right there. Democrats DID show up.

 

Plus, 

 

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

24 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

This is… not a good take. Voter turnout in America is terrible across the board, it’s just slightly less so for Republicans to an extent that impacts things. I don’t think that is just a semantic nitpick; Democrats have won almost every national popular election in my lifetime. At some point it becomes reasonable for Sisyphus to complain about pushing the rock up the hill, especially when Zeus is right there and could do something.

 

And not for nothing but Manchin and Sinema are like… right there. Democrats DID show up.

And yet the solution if not voting for not shit democrats is what

[Kal-El814]

Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

And yet the solution if not voting for not shit democrats is what

 

More than one thing can be true. More Democrats should vote more often than they do, it’s also completely reasonable to be exhausted by shit candidates and shit elected representatives.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

The worst democrat is better than the best Republican and voting isn’t difficult (but can be very time consuming) but effort should be put in safe blue districts to push out the old guard and put better people in who fit the districts

[Kal-El814]

Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

The worst democrat is better than the best Republican and voting isn’t difficult (but can be very time consuming) but effort should be put in safe blue districts to push out the old guard and put better people in who fit the districts

 

Well yes of course, we all wish we could manifest, conjure, or vote for better candidates.

 

But VOTE MORE, DEMS rings particularly hollow when the there’s a Democratic POTUS and house, and the Democrats control the Senate, and shit like this happens. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

6 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

Well yes of course, we all wish we could manifest, conjure, or vote for better candidates.

 

But VOTE MORE, DEMS rings particularly hollow when the there’s a Democratic POTUS and house, and the Democrats control the Senate, and shit like this happens. 

Seems more like a failure of set expectations and also being like 100k votes short of a 52-48 majority because of 2014&2016

[Zaku3]

36 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

Well yes of course, we all wish we could manifest, conjure, or vote for better candidates.

 

But VOTE MORE, DEMS rings particularly hollow when the there’s a Democratic POTUS and house, and the Democrats control the Senate, and shit like this happens. 

 

Ya I don't blame people for not voting. At the end of the day most politicians offer improving your life in some way. We are at a point now where most people are falling behind now. It's understandable to lose interest in electoral politics. 

 

Also technically the vote harder is a losing strategy. Go time is now, fast approaching, or behind us at this point. Asking people to vote harder so maybe in 20 years we can turn this around is a losing strategy. The US might not even exist as is in 20 years.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

and voting isn’t difficult (but can be very time consuming)

 

In a lot of red states it's also difficult.

[Jason]

Florida, Georgia, North Carolina Still Purging Voters at High Rates

WWW.BRENNANCENTER.ORG

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Voter purges increased significantly in the 2016 election cycle. New numbers from three states offer cause for alarm about 2018, too.

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

The act of voting is what I’m talking about like I’m not aware of voting challenges

 

everything up to that point ranges from comically easy to new deal effort to get registered let alone cast a ballot

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Like most people bitching about “jUsT vOtE” aren’t the ones generally who have trouble with their states disenfranchisement 

[Ghost_MH]

The fastest sort of fix for all of this is more states and an expansion of the House. If Democrats weren't stupid, they'd be pushing for DC, Puerto Rico, LA County, and so on as new states.

[Guest]

The people who are saying they aren’t going to bother voting aren’t doing so because they’ve waited in 8 hour long lines, they are people who simply don’t care enough to actually do anything about what they claim matters to them. The people who care are still waiting in 8 hour lines because they understand what is on the line for them.

[Jason]

 

[CitizenVectron]

Is that the goal? Like, I can't see into their minds, but would these people want the US to break up and have California, New York, and others break away?