Ghost_MH Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yeah we didn't need both stingers agreed. Either one was good but not both. It's like we missed a whole movie in between those two stingers Clearly the second stinger was added late because of the casting of Clea, but when they did that one they should have just cut the first one. Yeah, cut the first ending with him screaming and it would have been fine. All we needed to know is that he was corrupted and the third eye is enough to convey as much. We didn't need him screaming in the streets. We need like a three episode Disney+ Dr Strange series where he tries to get that corruption/third eye under control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 I liked how it went from a jump scare almost right into "oh it's actually fine." Very Raimi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 21 hours ago, legend said: I also recently watched on D+. I think there was some fun stuff here, but ultimately fell a little flat. It didn't feel like any of the character's meaningfully grew or reflected on events. Strange sees multiple worse versions of himself that he clearly teeters on becoming, but we don't see any meaningful reflection on that. Fuck, he goes all in using the "not book of the dead" right after see what it did to another version of himself. No trepidation about it either. America goes from not being able to control her powers to mastering them because Strange gave her one line of encouragement. What was the inner conflict she was battling with and how did Strange's comments actually allow her to move past it? Presumably something to do with fearing her own powers given what happened to her parents, but there's little reason for why she got past it and it was minimally explored. Her power mastery ultimately felt unearned. Contrast that with one of the best super hero movies of all time: Into Spiderverse's leap of faith scene. And how about Wanda? She got the closest to having a meaningful journey in her finally cracking seeing her kids react to her, but it also was just hurried along. Ultimately, there's very little setup and payoff in this move. I did enjoy the weirdness though. Musical notes battle was pretty entertaining and I loved the full Raimi zombie strange. Agreed on all your points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Or save the screaming with the third eye for the stinger with Clea, because yeah it was weird to have it end the movie as a shocking cliffhanger, but then nah he's fine here's the teaser for the next movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 20 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: That's the question going forward right? Strange did what he did because he felt he had no choice. He also saw the worse aspects of himself... the question is can THIS Strange, let's call him Prime Strange because HE's who the movies are about, escape the fate that befell the other Stranges. I think America herself said that HE was definitely different than any other Strange she's met. I can't remember, I haven't seen the movie since it came out. Which is kind of where he starts. Wanda even points out that he let's half the universe die because "he saw no other options" and is declared the hero. So at the end of the movie, he once again does something risky because he saw no other options. Hell, this is actually how he starts (end?) in the very first Strange movie by using the time stone! Being that it's the MCU, it could absolutely be that they plan on growing him along in following movies (and that seems like the plan given the credits scene), but it makes his part of the story in this movie kind of uninteresting beyond him being a fun character. 20 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: America's conflict, again if I recall, was that in her mind her powers killed her parents. Over the course of the story, she started to realize that she had more control over her powers than she thought and it took not only Strange's encouragement, but the fact that he came to help her after the OTHER Strange that she thought was her friend sold her out. All of the beats of her arc are there, whether or not they were effective depends on the viewer. Comparing this to the leap of faith scene is a little unfair because while they are both two superhero movies, they are constructed entirely differently. Agreed. I think we mainly differ on how effective we think their build up and payoff of this was. It felt marginal at best to me 20 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: As far as the pacing of the movie, you got me there... the movie crams a lot into its runtime but personally I think it did it about as effectively as could possibly be done. I think this was definitely one of the more well done more movies from a character development point of view and as I said earlier in this thread, it's the best adapation of the Dark Phoenix storyline that we've seen outside of the comics and it's not even an Xmen story. I strongly disagree that things felt "unearned" because as you yourself point out, all of the character beats are there. I enjoyed it fine enough, but just wasn't a stand out. It's a hard business making these huge many-movie stories and keeping things moving in each individual movie at the same time though. The entire Infinity Saga, for example, is far better than the sum of its parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 i loved the ending with him screaming. the mid credits scene could have gone. only comic fans knew who fucking clea was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, johnny said: only comic fans knew who fucking clea was. Yes, but EVERYONE knows who Charlize Theron is... THAT was the point. "CHARLIZE THERON is now a part of the Marvel U! oooh who is she playing?" I bet you everybody who wasn't a comic book fan knows who Clea is NOW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Watched it last night. Decent movie, I liked it better than Strange 1. It definitely felt a little messy/muddled until the final 1/3, and had way too much info dumping re: different magical mcguffins. If I have to hear the words Darkhold or Vishanti one more time... So overall an okay movie. The Raimi-esque parts were definitely the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Yes, but EVERYONE knows who Charlize Theron is... THAT was the point. "CHARLIZE THERON is now a part of the Marvel U! oooh who is she playing?" I bet you everybody who wasn't a comic book fan knows who Clea is NOW. i looked it up after. can’t remember for the life of me what her character does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, johnny said: i looked it up after. can’t remember for the life of me what her character does. That's my point, everyone looked the character up after seeing who she was in the movie. Now in the comics, not only is she Strange's wife, She's also the current Sorceror Supreme because Strange is dead in the comics. She's also Dormammu's niece, but I'm not sure if they are going to make that canon in the MCU. Marvel must have big plans for her moving forward because SHE'S the star of the Strange comic now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 hours ago, johnny said: i loved the ending with him screaming. the mid credits scene could have gone. only comic fans knew who fucking clea was. knowing who Clea was didn't really mater, the whole point of that middle scene was of course to show off that Theron had joined the MCU and to hint at more Dr. Strange/Multiverse adventures were coming in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 IDK maybe it’s just me but most of their credits scenes have sucked since phase 3 ended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, johnny said: IDK maybe it’s just me but most of their credits scenes have sucked since phase 3 ended excuse you but nothing will top pizza poppa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Calling it now too -- Pizza Poppa is 100% multiverse Ashley Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 hours ago, EternallDarkness said: knowing who Clea was didn't really mater, the whole point of that middle scene was of course to show off that Theron had joined the MCU and to hint at more Dr. Strange/Multiverse adventures were coming in the future. Samething with showing Harry Styles at the end of Eternals... nobody knows who Eros/ Starfox is. EVERYONE knows Harry Styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 38 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: EVERYONE knows Harry Styles. nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jason said: nope get out of your closet jason. harry styles is way more popular than charlize theron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, johnny said: get out of your closet jason. what a tasteless joke, let alone during pride month Spoiler 13 minutes ago, johnny said: harry styles is way more popular than charlize theron I didn't recognize her either tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Jason said: what a tasteless joke, let alone during pride month Reveal hidden contents I didn't recognize her either tbh. What the hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: What the hell. I don't watch a lot of movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Jason said: I don't watch a lot of movies. Haven't you watched Arrested Development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Kal-El814 said: Haven't you watched Arrested Development? I don't think I ever made it past the first half of season 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't think I ever made it past the first half of season 1. Aaah that would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Recently watched this again and I am compelled to restate that as someone who has believed that Mister Fantastic and Black Bolt have always sucked ass, this movie is a deliciously rich text. Sam Raimi just gets me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 It was better the second time seeing it at home. They could have developed America's character more, but a bunch of things I found fault with I just shrugged off this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 The only review you need. Doctor Strange aka The WANDAVISION Movie #gay #doctorstrange #wandavision #wandamaximoff #mcu #multiverseofmadness #multiverse #mentalhealthawareness #movie #review WWW.TIKTOK.COM Doctor Strange aka The WANDAVISION Movie #gay #doctorstrange #wandavision #wandamaximoff #mcu #multiverseofmadness #multiverse #mentalhealthawareness #movie #review The whole account is a delight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Sorry for the big boost here but I just finally watched yesterday, and 3D is the way to see it. That whole music battle scene was amazing and really pops in 3D. Not too many pop outs but enough, as it was mostly done to create depth of field and they do that nicely here. I love that the movie was a Raimi film and had a ton of references to his past works. The whole first giant monster scene on earth 616 when American arrives, is pretty much a multiverse take on Spider-Man’s 2 battle between Doc. Oc and Spidey with Aunt May as the lady in distress. They refer to the monster as an Octopus, the scene has some shot for shot moments from Spider-Man 2. Same coffee shop, same building it climbed and Doctor Strange even jumps out of the crashed coffee shop, the same way Peter did. Anyone else notice this or was it just me? Plus the whole zombie Strange scene reminded me of a combo of Army of Darkness and Darkman. He even delivers the lines almost like Neeson did in Darkman. Plus the stinger was great and so was the his cameo. Just wish we got to stay in a few of these multiverse worlds and not merely pass through. Wanda I thought could of eased into that ultimate bad guy role slowly, as it seemed too abrupt for me. Yes I watched and loved Wandavision, but I would of liked to of seen is few scenes to get her to her extreme methods of violence. Not just reveal it to Strange like so and give him a head start. That Blackbolt death was great and so was Prof X. Still think the story was a bit messy at the start, but had a blast for the last half or third of the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, silentbob said: Sorry for the big boost here but I just finally watched yesterday, and 3D is the way to see it. That whole music battle scene was amazing and really pops in 3D. Not too many pop outs but enough, as it was mostly done to create depth of field and they do that nicely here. I love that the movie was a Raimi film and had a ton of references to his past works. The whole first giant monster scene on earth 616 when American arrives, is pretty much a multiverse take on Spider-Man’s 2 battle between Doc. Oc and Spidey with Aunt May as the lady in distress. They refer to the monster as an Octopus, the scene has some shot for shot moments from Spider-Man 2. Same coffee shop, same building it climbed and Doctor Strange even jumps out of the crashed coffee shop, the same way Peter did. Anyone else notice this or was it just me? Plus the whole zombie Strange scene reminded me of a combo of Army of Darkness and Darkman. He even delivers the lines almost like Neeson did in Darkman. Plus the stinger was great and so was the his cameo. Just wish we got to stay in a few of these multiverse worlds and not merely pass through. Wanda I thought could of eased into that ultimate bad guy role slowly, as it seemed too abrupt for me. Yes I watched and loved Wandavision, but I would of liked to of seen is few scenes to get her to her extreme methods of violence. Not just reveal it to Strange like so and give him a head start. That Blackbolt death was great and so was Prof X. Still think the story was a bit messy at the start, but had a blast for the last half or third of the movie. I miss 3D TVs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 @Jasonwhy guillotine? It's not like you were forced to watch in 3D mode lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 14 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I miss 3D TVs Thankfully most projectors still do. It’s finding the country that still produces/sells the 3D disc release that keeps getting harder to find (and more expensive too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, silentbob said: Thankfully most projectors still do. It’s finding the country that still produces/sells the 3D disc release that keeps getting harder to find (and more expensive too) 4k made so non-active glasses didn't look like ass too. Such a shame people lost interest due to the half-resolution of non-active glasses on HDTVs making things look like a blurry mess. My Panny Plasma had active glasses so the PQ was always "fine" comparatively, but JFC those things were pricey if you needed extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 12 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: 4k made so non-active glasses didn't look like ass too. Such a shame people lost interest due to the half-resolution of non-active glasses on HDTVs making things look like a blurry mess. My Panny Plasma had active glasses so the PQ was always "fine" comparatively, but JFC those things were pricey if you needed extras. What I think really hurt 3D from staying present was because they didn’t standardize anything for everyone. I had a Samsung plasma that was also used RF active glasses. When I upgraded to my Sony 40es projector, they were IR glasses. Thankfully I found a bunch of Sony 3D TV glasses for $10 a piece. Then when I upgraded to my JVC projectors, but I needed to buy an RF Transmitter my Samsung glasses worked, but were cheap crappy ones. My transmitter came with one pair of 3D glasses from XPand, but they broke in half like a year or so later. Thankfully there’s Hi-Shock glasses on Amazon that work great and aren’t nearly as expensive as everyone else ($50 a pair) Plus the picture looks brighter and more colourful on them compare to past 3D glasses worn. Oh let’s not forget the first batch of LG OLED that had 3D, they were passive 3D like in the theatres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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