b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Dems running the senate and house and presidency blaming the Republicans is gonna fall on deaf ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Dems running the senate and house and presidency blaming the Republicans is gonna fall on deaf ears No, it will fall on dumb ears who will listen and believe the blame game. In reality, the Dems don't need the Republican vote, they are avoiding the perception of the growing totalitarian state of which we are currently governed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Commodore D said: No, it will fall on dumb ears who will listen and believe the blame game. In reality, the Dems don't need the Republican vote, they are avoiding the perception of the growing totalitarian state of which we are currently governed. The last part of this is pure nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The last part of this is pure nonsense As something of a totalitarian myself, I wholeheartedly agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The last part of this is pure nonsense The key word is growing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Commodore D said: The key word is growing. It's really not you're just full of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It's really not you're just full of shit Naw, a lot of talk out of the government seems to be state subservient. Not pinning it on the current administration, its all around, been around, grows more and more each day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 good news Susan it's not gonna be $3.5T so raise the debt limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Such an absurd, implausible scenario and the best she could offer was “some.” Fuck outta here Susan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe said: Such an absurd, implausible scenario and the best she could offer was “some.” Fuck outta here Susan. So awesome her Democratic challenger had millions unspent at the end of the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Dems should call their bluff. I know Mitch doesn't give a fuck about much but the one thing he does care about is his donors and I guarantee you they would not be too happy about a default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 It's clear that the coin is legal under current law, otherwise it wouldn't need to be explicitly banned, a measure that congress has rejected that said our leaders don't seem too keen on the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 very cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 lmao The way this country is governed is so dysfunctional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 The ratings agencies just need to downgrade US debt and get it over with. We're going to default sooner or later so we might as well get some of the shock out of the system now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 No way Mitch and co is gonna let us default. I'm not worried at all. This is all show. Mitch, Romney and the rest of the ghouls would never take a personal hit not to mention their donors for principle. They would fuck up their own money and donors money if they tank the global economy. This would never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 You see we don't want to destroy America but we have to cause, I dunno people might find out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: You see we don't want to destroy America but we have to cause i dunno people might find out. Wait until Cruz Hawley and Paul are out of town then do it on unanimous consent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: You see we don't want to destroy America but we have to cause i dunno people might find out. In a firing squad one gun is always loaded with a blank so that the killing shot can't be related to a specific shooter. If they do a private ballot they just need one GOP senator to vote against so they can all claim they were the no vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: No way Mitch and co is gonna let us default. I'm not worried at all. This is all show. Mitch, Romney and the rest of the ghouls would never take a personal hit not to mention their donors for principle. They would fuck up their own money and donors money if they tank the global economy. This would never happen. I have no doubt that he would. Because he needs that power. And as much as he might hate Trump, he also needs him to be on Fox News for that "I told you so" soundbite of Biden ruining the economy, even if it was sabotaged by the very party that makes the soundbite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Littleronin said: I have no doubt that he would. Because he needs that power. And as much as he might hate Trump, he also needs him to be on Fox News for that "I told you so" soundbite of Biden ruining the economy, even if it was sabotaged by the very party that makes the soundbite. They will have a hell of a time explaining filibustering the vote to prevent the default the day before the default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Just now, Air_Delivery said: They will have a hell of a time explaining filibustering the vote to prevent the default the day before the default. With the spin machine they got, their base will have no issue gobbling whatever toxic waste is spewed forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 It's always easy to dunk on the Democrats for being bad at politics, and the fact that default is even possible when they control the House, Senate, and the Presidency only makes it more obvious why we should. However, it is worth pointing out that if the GOP stood for anything other than "owning the libs," this wouldn't be an issue either. When your only real conviction is that you have to disagree with the other party, even when the other party just wants to keep everyone afloat, you have to be willing to let everyone sink. It's not like this is the only possible outcome for half of a two party system. They could (and used to) have their own beliefs that supersede hating on the other guys, but they've transformed their party in such that the only way for themselves to win is for the Democrats to lose, even if they have to suffer as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 That is a good reminder. For all the shit we fling at Manchin/Sinema/Pelosi or whoever is the pariah that week, it goes without saying that if we need to pick anyone in Congress to go "hang out at a gas station" 99% of this board will start on the right side of the aisle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 No idea how Manchin and Sinema can see the GOP openly talk like this and pretend the filibuster is still a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: No idea how Manchin and Sinema can see the GOP openly talk like this and pretend the filibuster is still a good idea. Because they’re fucking morons. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 14 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Romney that mother-soaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Time to bring out the heavy corporate artillery: Big bank bosses and the AARP join Biden's push to raise the debt ceiling with 12 days before deadline WWW.CNBC.COM President Joe Biden will on Wednesday escalate his call for Congress to address the debt limit in a meeting with Wall Street's top CEOs. Quote President Joe Biden will on Wednesday escalate his call for Congress to address the debt ceiling in a meeting with some of Wall Street’s top CEOs and stress that delaying an increase to the borrowing limit risks a first-ever U.S. default and near-certain economic calamity. Nine CEOs are expected to attend, including JPMorgan Chase boss Jamie Dimon, Intel exec Pat Gelsinger, Nasdaq chief Adena Friedman and Raytheon leader Greg Hayes. AARP chief Jo Ann Jenkins, Citi CEO Jane Fraser and Deloitte exec Punit Renjen are also on the guest list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 We're totally gonna default! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Eh, they're leaving out a little context from manchin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Eh, they're leaving out a little context from manchin If he's not willing to blow up the filibuster to prevent a default then it doesn't really change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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