Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 DO WANT...to see more before I am excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 'Tis coming to PC too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Just now, AbsolutSurgen said: 'Tis coming to PC too. That is indeed what it says in the thread title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The circle is now complete when I left you I was an Xbox exclusive. Now I am a playstation exclusive. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: The circle is now complete when I left you I was an Xbox exclusive. Now I am a playstation exclusive. *Timed exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I've had the original installed on my laptop for years. I should finally play it so I can compare to the remake. Bold of them to go with Playstation as a (timed) console exclusive. Might not be the smartest decision though given that this is Star Wars, one of the most popular and beloved IPs in existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 I wish it were both games. I wonder if it’ll be totally revamped or just redo visual assets and keep the core mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Please keep the combat intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 5:18 PM, Zaku3 said: The circle is now complete when I left you I was an Xbox exclusive. Now I am a playstation exclusive. But PC=The Force. It surrounds us and penetrates us, binds the galaxy together.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 7:02 PM, Paperclyp said: I wish it were both games. I wonder if it’ll be totally revamped or just redo visual assets and keep the core mechanics. On 9/9/2021 at 7:04 PM, Spork3245 said: Please keep the combat intact. The rumors I’ve read suggest it will be more like FF7:R, with a more active battle system that pays homage to the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 4:04 PM, Spork3245 said: Please keep the combat intact. As someone who has failed to start the game like 7 times because literally everything about it plays like dated trash pulled from a janky dumpster fire, I respectfully disagree! It would be decades before Bioware began producing combat approaching anything other than "well at least the story's good." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Xbob42 said: As someone who has failed to start the game like 7 times because literally everything about it plays like dated trash pulled from a janky dumpster fire, I respectfully disagree! It would be decades before Bioware began producing combat approaching anything other than "well at least the story's good." Same. As much as I loved this game as a kid, I've tried to replay this game many times over the years and just get insanely bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Xbob42 said: As someone who has failed to start the game like 7 times because literally everything about it plays like dated trash pulled from a janky dumpster fire, I respectfully disagree! It would be decades before Bioware began producing combat approaching anything other than "well at least the story's good." I will third this. Turn based (sort of?) combat in a Star Wars game? Come on. Give me real time lightsaber and blaster combat, while still giving me control over what my squadmates do ala Mass Effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Brick said: I will third this. Turn based (sort of?) combat in a Star Wars game? Come on. Give me real time lightsaber and blaster combat, while still giving me control over what my squadmates do ala Mass Effect. This is truly the best solution and the way I hope they're going. I played KOTOR when it first came out and loved it but didn't play KOTOR 2. I've tried recently and like others have said, it can be boring as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 If they just upgraded it to DA:O combat I would be fine with that too. I enjoyed the combat in the other DA games as well which would work well with remake of KOTOR. But since it isn't being made by bioware who knows what we'll get. I hope they have a more robust character creator instead of picking a "canonical" main character. I mean, I always go with generic white guy with blue eyes when given the choice but the more options the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Xbob42 said: As someone who has failed to start the game like 7 times because literally everything about it plays like dated trash pulled from a janky dumpster fire, I respectfully disagree! It would be decades before Bioware began producing combat approaching anything other than "well at least the story's good." Real-time combat does not suit this game, IMO. the Bioware D&D-style has made both entries “hold up” for me. It’s not an action game, nor should it be, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 As someone who really likes the old school Baldur's Gate (he RPGs, not Dark Alliance) and who has bounced off KOTOR a few times, I don't think BioWare has ever done GREAT home-cooked strategic combat? The isometric RPGs worked because they were based in a stress tested pen and paper system, something like KOTOR always felt too "loose" to me. They seemed to have largely figured it out with Dragon Age Origins only to more or less abandon it by Mass Effect 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Played and beat it once at it's initial release. Classic game so I'll be all over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Apparently Bioware isn't working on it, so that's promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Real-time combat does not suit this game, IMO. the Bioware D&D-style has made both entries “hold up” for me. It’s not an action game, nor should it be, IMO. I actually think adopting the FF7R combat style is a better match for KOTOR than it is for FF7 and I really like the FF7R approach! I think it's a better match because original KOTOR was real-time with pause and cooldowns between each action and the FF7R combat is exactly that with that addition that in between the cool downs you control regular action-like attacks. The trick is to make it so that you need to be doing both to succeed: both regular combat and issuing commands with the pause whenever you get the chance, and I think FF7R does a good job showing that you can strike that balance. It also allows for a bit more flair in the fights, and Star Wars lightsaber battles were always meant to be flashy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Rev said: Apparently Bioware isn't working on it, so that's promising. Once upon a time this would have been blasphemy, but I think it might be right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I hate FF7R combat so this will be an easy skip if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, legend said: Once upon a time this would have been blasphemy, but I think it might be right now I will literally never forgive them for Anthem. I don't care if their next game single-handedly ends Covid and cures cancer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, legend said: Once upon a time this would have been blasphemy, but I think it might be right now And does Aspyr inspire confidence? I mean their re-issues have been fine but they aren't someone I expect to make a jaw dropping game from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: And does Aspyr inspire confidence? I mean their re-issues have been fine but they aren't someone I expect to make a jaw dropping game from. I'd have to think about that one. Although if I have to think about it, it's certainly not a "you got this" situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, legend said: I'd have to think about that one. Although if I have to think about it, it's certainly not a "you got this" situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, legend said: Star Wars lightsaber battles were always meant to be flashy You don't say... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic's Biggest Issue Is How It Plays WWW.GAMEINFORMER.COM Fighting with the camera and dated controls makes any current version of KOTOR an ordeal I don't want to deal with, and the upcoming remake is a perfect time to rework these pain points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 It's an RPG. I've never had a problem replaying it beyond it CTD on my ultrawide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: It's an RPG. I've never had a problem replaying it beyond it CTD on my ultrawide. I don't know why people think "RPG" has to be synonymous with "plays like dogshit and is actively unfun," because that simply isn't the case. Divinity Original Sin is an RPG. Tales of Arise is an RPG. They both play amazingly well. KOTOR is a dysfunctional, clunky, ugly mess that I bet 99% of people without nostalgia (either for KOTOR specifically or games that play VERY similarly from the same era) have to fight to enjoy to any degree. A game can be an RPG and fun. It's possible! Bioware specifically was total dogshit at dealing with combat until Mass Effect Andromeda, which is also when they forgot how to do the rest of the video game properly, so I guess for them it really is an either/or. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I loved KOTOR’s combat back in the day and the thought of the remake changing things is a little disappointing, but it’s pretty undeniable that it would be dated in this day and age. I’m fine with changing it so long as it keeps the spirit of the D20 system. No reason to bemoan a modern take on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 FF7 gets changed: Yeah WOO KOTOR gets changed: BOO NO I hope KOTORR is just Dark Souls with Lightsabers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Dark Souls combat with controllable teammates could be pretty fucking cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bacon said: FF7 gets changed: Yeah WOO KOTOR gets changed: BOO NO I hope KOTORR is just Dark Souls with Lightsabers It is called Jedi Fallen Order 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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