Reputator Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 RTX 2070 = $499 https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-official-launch/ RTX 2080 = $699 https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/ RTX 2080 Ti = $999 https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-11-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/ $400 option? Too bad. Fuck you. Should have given NVIDIA a better competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 AMD's Navi will only be midranged in 2019 (rumor), so 2060/2070 performance at best. We have to wait until 2020 for AMD and Intel's new architectures that may be able to compete with the 2080 Ti. The good news is AMD's R&D budget has jumped the last couple of years. With Zen finally bringing in more revenue, I expect AMD will be competitive again in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 My Guess is that AMD is basically, though unofficially, out of the high end GPU industry. They are likely much more focused on how to produce best budget to mid range cards that they can sell at competitive prices and that fit well into next generation consoles. Its a near sighted strategy, but I can hardly fault them with Nvidia dominating the high end market and Intel poised to step into the breach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 That title change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: My Guess is that AMD is basically, though unofficially, out of the high end GPU industry. They are likely much more focused on how to produce best budget to mid range cards that they can sell at competitive prices and that fit well into next generation consoles. Its a near sighted strategy, but I can hardly fault them with Nvidia dominating the high end market and Intel poised to step into the breach. I think they're out of the high end GPU game until the second half of 2020 when their new architecture comes out. AMD knows that GCN ran out of room for meaningful tweaks on the high end and they know it doesn't scale past a certain point. AMD still is making Vega on 7nm for datacenters/deep learning, and Lisa mentioned that they are focusing a lot of the new R&D money on AI software, so it seems they have every intention of building high end graphics chips, it's just they have to wait for the successor to GCN before they try to fight Nvidia at that tier. It would be a mistake to think AMD is out permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: I think they're out of the high end GPU game until the second half of 2020 when their new architecture comes out. AMD knows that GCN ran out of room for meaningful tweaks on the high end and they know it doesn't scale past a certain point. AMD still is making Vega on 7nm for datacenters/deep learning, and Lisa mentioned that they are focusing a lot of the new R&D money on AI software, so it seems they have every intention of building high end graphics chips, it's just they have to wait for the successor to GCN before they try to fight Nvidia at that tier. It would be a mistake to think AMD is out permanently. Hmmm, I certainly hope this is true, but they will be returning to an even more competitive market than the one they fell out of last year! Don't get me wrong, I miss the days of AMD offering up the muscle car, all speed no frills, equivalent of power compared to Nvidia's Lincoln town car luxury approach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Hmmm, I certainly hope this is true, but they will be returning to an even more competitive market than the one they fell out of last year! Don't get me wrong, I miss the days of AMD offering up the muscle car, all speed no frills, equivalent of power compared to Nvidia's Lincoln town car luxury approach! My guess is 2020 and 2021 will be some of the most interesting and competitive GPU years we have ever seen. Intel will be new to the scene and will probably have something fairly competitive. AMD will launch their brand new from scratch designs and it will be on par with Nvidia. AMD is able to do a lot without much money and now they are incrementally increasing R&D in areas they know they can compete. The important thing to note with AMD is their leadership is rock solid now, unlike the years prior to Lisa Su running the show. I wouldn't bet against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Another prediction: AMD will continue to come out with GPUs 8-12 months after Nvidia that use 50% more power, and don't compete at the mid/high-end on performance Intel will launch with crappy drivers, offer only mid-range GPUs, and charge more than Nvidia/AMD And the rest of us will continue to buy Nvidia GPUs to use with our G-Sync monitors, grumble about the price, but be happy that there is a high-performance alternative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Why did they switch from GTX? I seriously thought these were AMD models for a moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: That title change! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Jason said: Why did they switch from GTX? I seriously thought these were AMD models for a moment. RTX = Raytracing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: RTX = Raytracing Then what was GTX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Jason said: Then what was GTX? No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Then what was GTX? ...gaytracing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 GeForce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jason said: Then what was GTX? Nothing officially. It just is. I always thought it was something like "geometry and textures," but no, it just is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 GTX is NVIDIA's top tier cards. Its a visual indication of power. It doesnt stand for anything.Previously they used: GT>GTS>GS>SE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If you go on the nVidia site, everything in the 10 series is GTX 10xx. So I don't see how "top tier cards" is what it could be for. And wouldn't that imply that RTX isn't their top tier this time around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: If you go on the nVidia site, everything in the 10 series is GTX 10xx. So I don't see how "top tier cards" is what it could be for. And wouldn't that imply that RTX isn't their top tier this time around? It started that way and has now morphed into just another part of the their nonsensical marketing puke. Trust me, its the way its meant to be played! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 As much as I wish I could upgrade this time, I just cant scrap that kind of cash for an upgrade. Maybe next gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morph89 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Previously they used: GT>GTS>GS>SE. Can't forget the good ol' "Ultra" cards as well (yeah yeah, not an abbreviation, but still). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, morph89 said: Can't forget the good ol' "Ultra" cards as well (yeah yeah, not an abbreviation, but still). good call! I forgot about those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Massdriver said: My guess is 2020 and 2021 will be some of the most interesting and competitive GPU years we have ever seen. Oh yeah. It's gonna be the most exciting time in graphics since the late 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Wonder what's going to be a worthwhile upgrade from my 980. I want to do it sometime relatively soon, I just don't want to break the bank. Just because I can technically afford something, doesn't meant I want to throw away that much money on something that'll devalue that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Wonder what's going to be a worthwhile upgrade from my 980. I want to do it sometime relatively soon, I just don't want to break the bank. Just because I can technically afford something, doesn't meant I want to throw away that much money on something that'll devalue that fast. Just wait for reviews to come out for this next generation. That will be crucial to any sort of decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Nvidia without competition has proven to be as crappy as everyone thought they would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarich Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 RAPE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGLatinBoy Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 It’s as though nVidia figures out that people will pay crazy amounts of money because of crypto currency. I’m not saying they’ll sell to miners but what I am saying is there were plenty of dumbasses paying $1000+ for a 1080ti because they really wanted one for gaming and now nVidia is being shameless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Why Are Nvidia's GeForce RTX GPUs So Expensive? "Analyst Jon Peddie suggests that the cost may just be a result of what it takes to make this kind of hardware. “Simple cost-of-goods… “ he told Tom’s Hardware over email. “These giant (and they are really big) chips cost a lot to make and test, and the huge amount of memory is expensive plus the cooling systems - just [cost of goods]. There's no rip off here, no conspiracy.” But it could also be for a variety of other reasons. Stephen Baker, vice president of industry analysis at NPD, suggested it could be due to inventory or availability. “I think they are likely trying to price these as very premium products,” Baker said. “Certainly if there is a significant amount of series 10 cards floating around they would want to at least draw that down somewhat.” Baker also suggested that they can use the high pricing for a gradual release as the company better understands demand: “The market for cards has been so crazy the last couple of years, between the explosion in interest in gaming, the cryptomining bubble and the upgrade in quality and demand that they would be doing themselves a disservice to come out at lower prices,” he said. Lastly, he theorizes that high prices could be a way to protect against limited inventories after the launch." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Ominous said: Pathetic You’re buying 3 instead of 4 then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: You’re buying 3 instead of 4 then? Let’s be reasonable here, SLI support has been reduced to two GPUs only this generation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Let’s be reasonable here, SLI support has been reduced to two GPUs only this generation! Two for games, one for the e-peen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Sold my xp yesterday, so it’s really only like $450 for the ti, that makes it ok right, right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Quote Check out the latest exclusive 4K Anthem gameplay revealed at our CES 2019 keynote! It features never-before seen Javelin, enemies, and environments. The team is happy to announce that DLSS is coming to Anthem thanks to the hard work of Bioware and NVIDIA. Be ready for the PC launch on February 22nd, 2019! For a limited time you can receive a free copy of Anthem with the purchase of select GeForce RTX graphics cards, laptops and PCs as part of our new Game On bundle. Quote The GeForce RTX™ 2060 is powered by the NVIDIA Turing™ architecture, bringing incredible performance and the power of real-time ray tracing and AI to the latest games and to every gamer. RTX. It’s On. Quote Incredibly fast, quiet performance. Real-time ray tracing and AI-enhanced graphics. And the mobility of the world’s thinnest and lightest designs. It’s everything you want to game your best. And it’s only in GeForce RTX gaming laptops. Quote Take a look at our updated ray-tracing demonstration of Battlefield V – showcased live during Jensen Huang’s CES 2019 press event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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