Kamusha Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 It doesn't really lower the "stakes" if you continue to keep the focus on one timeline. Into the Spider-Verse did this perfectly by keeping the focus on Miles Morales. I'm sure Marvel will continue to do the same. What If seems to be the one exception that allows them to tell stories take take place in alternate timelines. I mean, this movie could very well be a mess by having all of these other character from previous Spider-Man movies, but it does seem like Marvel is trying to ground this by focusing on the emotional stakes of Peter in this timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I know this is just me, but I have a hard time caring about “big picture” stakes when it comes to comics and comics movies since they almost always do the fictional equivalent of regressing to the mean. If an individual book, arc, story, issue, etc., is cool, I’m in. The canon or the larger framework is just too squishy for me to invest in meaningfully. I also, generally, find “smaller scale” stakes to be more impactful anyway. Aunt May yelling at Peter to take money from her or Peter telling Aunt May why he feels responsible for Uncle Ben’s death in Spider-Man 2 hit harder than anything Tony and Peter go through in the MCU, even though the stakes in the latter are arguably higher (and I think those moments work, I’m not dunking on them). It could also just be that Spider-Man 2 absolutely crushes. Man I hope Raimi’s turn on Doctor Strange is as good as the first 2 Spidey flicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 So far, from what I'm seeing, this looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. I especially loved the frustration Doctor Strange had during the spell casting as Peter kept trying to adjust the spell, and Strange is trying to concentrate on taking it seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: I know this is just me, but I have a hard time caring about “big picture” stakes when it comes to comics and comics movies since they almost always do the fictional equivalent of regressing to the mean. If an individual book, arc, story, issue, etc., is cool, I’m in. The canon or the larger framework is just too squishy for me to invest in meaningfully. I also, generally, find “smaller scale” stakes to be more impactful anyway. Aunt May yelling at Peter to take money from her or Peter telling Aunt May why he feels responsible for Uncle Ben’s death in Spider-Man 2 hit harder than anything Tony and Peter go through in the MCU, even though the stakes in the latter are arguably higher (and I think those moments work, I’m not dunking on them). It could also just be that Spider-Man 2 absolutely crushes. Man I hope Raimi’s turn on Doctor Strange is as good as the first 2 Spidey flicks. Yup. I''ve always said that scene in particular with May walking away silently to go upstairs and cry has more emotion than anything in the MCU thus far, not that the MCU hasn't had any good emotional scenes, but far too often a serious moment is broken with a joke or wisecrack, and while funny, it's starting to become a bit overrused. Bathos is a great literary technique when used properly, hell it works well in Thor Ragnarok because Taika Waititi is a great comedic writer, but there's so many moments in some of the other movies that would have a greater impact and emotion if they played it straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I guess my point is that the uniqueness of the individual is a major piece of why we care about specific characters. If they go toooo wide with the multiverse concept, you effectively end up with a character that is just one tiny imperceptible shade different than the next, and only as you get further and further shades away do you actually have a truly different character. Personal stakes are exactly the issue! The MCU is at its most boring when it’s all big stuff. Part of what I enjoyed about Shang Chi is that it is mostly about the turmoil of an individual family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 So this appears to be the MCU version of "One More Day" and "One Moment In Time" We gonna see Mephisto ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 1:15 AM, sblfilms said: I guess my point is that the uniqueness of the individual is a major piece of why we care about specific characters. If they go toooo wide with the multiverse concept, you effectively end up with a character that is just one tiny imperceptible shade different than the next, and only as you get further and further shades away do you actually have a truly different character. Personal stakes are exactly the issue! The MCU is at its most boring when it’s all big stuff. Part of what I enjoyed about Shang Chi is that it is mostly about the turmoil of an individual family. Exactly. This has been my worry about this. I hope they toe the right line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 10:34 AM, Ghost_MH said: That’s great, and a funny nod to the split second of Lizard footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ Runtime Teases a Marvel Multiverse Epic MOVIEWEB.COM A reported runtime for Spider-Man: No Way Home would leave plenty of time for all the multiverse madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ Was Treated as the End of a Franchise Teases Tom Holland MOVIEWEB.COM In a recent interview, Tom Holland opens up about his future as the wall crawler in Spider-Man: No Way Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 They had no other choice, MCU Spider-Man only has one more movie left in the contract and iirc it can't be a standalone, which means he'll be in the next Avengers or whatever this phase's version of Civil War is, then that's it. Unless Sony and Disney come to an agreement (and I think they will - everyone is getting rich, it's just a pissing contest, there's too much money on the table for one of the parties to just leave) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Newly leaked photos seems to confirm what we all already knew, but will keep in spoiler tag Spoiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours and 39 minute runtime. Interesting choice considering this current series of films is known for being a more light take on the character. But now with the third one they go all epic, sprawling and multiverse on us. It'll be interesting to those who like the high school antics of the first two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, silentbob said: Newly leaked photos seems to confirm what we all already knew, but will keep in spoiler tag It all makes sense that they would put Drake in the Spider-verse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 seems to help confirm even more bad guys in the film. Pretty sure I’m hearing Rhys Ifans questioning Peter, and I hope the final moment isn’t a nightmare Peter is having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 That's a fan edit trailer, @silentbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Brick said: That's a fan edit trailer, @silentbob 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 doesn't look fan made this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just make sure you share from the actual official Sony Pictures channel lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Scooby-Doo this crap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I mean, looks good/fun is my initial reaction, no more, no less. It'll be a good one time watch and then onward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What's this about magic words? Spoiler Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bacon Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I can't believe the first movie I'm going to see in theaters since Star Wars is fucking Spider-Man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 There's five villains in that. They are definitely hiding a 6th so we can finally get the Sinister Six. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Scooby-Doo this crap! What the freakin' hell was that reference even supposed to mean?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: What the freakin' hell was that reference even supposed to mean?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: What the freakin' hell was that reference even supposed to mean?!? Team up to solve the mystery/unmask the villain. Or get high in a van with a talking dog. With everything else going on in this movie, it wouldn’t surprise me if there was a talking dog. Maybe it’s better in context (unlikely). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: What the freakin' hell was that reference even supposed to mean?!? You have to scooby-doo it to find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Brick said: There's five villains in that. They are definitely hiding a 6th so we can finally get the Sinister Six. If we look at the original six, aside from Kraven, we have Vulture and Mysterio to choose from. If these are supposed to be villains that die to Spider-Man, it would make more thematic sense for the sixth here to be Mysterio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I do hope that one of these movies finally gives us Scorpion who was teased in the first movie. Anyone who watches Better Call Saul knows that Michael Mando is a damn fine actor, but my worry is that he isn't a big enough name (yet) that the studio wouldn't think he's a big enough draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Brick said: I do hope that one of these movies finally gives us Scorpion who was teased in the first movie. Anyone who watches Better Call Saul knows that Michael Mando is a damn fine actor, but my worry is that he isn't a big enough name (yet) that the studio wouldn't think he's a big enough draw. The first movie also teased Prowler and I'd imagine Donald Glover is certainly a big enough name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: The first movie also teased Prowler and I'd imagine Donald Glover is certainly a big enough name. I feel like they'd save him for whenever they bring in Miles. Hopefully it's not just a retread of what we saw with those two in Spiderverse; I already kind of feel that this movie is just chasing those Spiderverse feels but now live action, even if I'm excited to see Tobey suit up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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