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2 hours ago, Jason said:

 

LOL, it's so easy to find things to rag on Maher for and you found something where it's actually hard to disagree with him. :lol:

 

I mean since he used that stupid food comparison, most of America's defining cuisine comes from the South. It was actually a really fucking shitty take. 

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I guess the test would be "were the person's flaws considered normal at the time?" If they were, then the historical figure can get a bit of a pass if other things they did were of amazing value. So Washington gets a pass for slavery because slavery was considered normal (and moral) amongst the majority of the population, but he was progressive in other ways. That doesn't make him a good person compared to today's values, but it does let you view his actions and importance in context. Having said that...being a Nazi has never been accepted over any significant time frame, so there's no way to hand wave that away.

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1 minute ago, mozart_beercan69 said:

While there's still some debate on twitter over trump being a bigot, everyone can agree he's a narcissist, right?  What happens if it's revealed Trump's plan all along was/is:

 

phase 1: Run as a republican while everyone is still good and angry at 'bama.  Dogwhistle nazis, racists, nationalists, sexists, homophobes, the "i'm one of the nice conservatives" conservatives, christian fundamentalists, people who love Trump products and shows to amass the voting numbers to get him elected 

 

phase 2: gets elected.  now, to maintain the profile and appease his base, keeps up the bigotry, shock jock humor, clowning, trolling for the purpose of taking attention off the fact that he's dismantling the GOP and gathering intel on his cabinet

 

phase 3: be the catalyst that makes conservatives look worse and worse over time.  Republicans have always looked bad in recent history, but have been like that rich uncle or eccentric grandfather you spend emotional labor on at white thanksgiving. Trump's plan now is to show the GOP as the swamp uncle nobody sends greeting cards to, and ultimately the supervillains of our time.  

 

phase 4: This is where the trojan horse megaton starts to reveal itself.  After attempts to build the massive wall, after scaring everyone by pretending to enact many more of the oppressive policies, and as each of them are reduced or shot down, something seems off.  He HAD to have predicted this would happen, right? So...

 

phase 5: this is where the real plan comes in.  Trump starts enacting progressive policies.  He starts acting nice.  He decriminalizes most drugs, enforces stricter gun control, institutes universal healthcare,  restructures the government, law enforcement, etc to be more diverse and less skewed to good ol boys,  trust fund cases, etc.  And socially, his actions have shown the extent of how ugly the bigoted underbelly of this country is.  Nobody who is a bigot can hide again.  If they didn't already air out themselves out during his rule, then Trump's performance art has done the world a favor by showing a portrait of said behavior for everyone who isn't familiar with arthouse dark comedies to remember forever.  Trump's true motivations for being president are now revealed: His goal was to be worshiped as a savior of America, the president who both ended injustice "better than Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and Harvey Milk combined!" he'll say.   Yes, he is responsible for ICE putting children in literal cages, but "Obama is responsible for drone strikes on innocent people who are now dead, which is worse.  Nobody's perfect.", he'll say.  Bigots and/or conservatives will be mad that they were duped into voting against their own interests, but will like that trump proved that edgelord humor DOES have a place in society, which will enrage many social justice activists who wanted only the law changes that reduce social injustice. 

 

In the end, are we all going to be trumped?

 

 

 

There is no evidence of that, unfortunately.

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