Derek Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, stepee said: I’ve never seen these so I decided to watch all three back to back yesterday and it was a fun evening! With the cliff hanger at the end of chapter 3, I’m glad I only have to wait 4 or so months! They are a lot of fun and the perfect vehicle for Mr. Keanu Reeves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 The ‘John Wick’ Director Wasn’t Messing Around When He Said Part 4 Would Be The Longest Yet UPROXX.COM ’John Wick: Chapter 4’ will be the longest John Wick movie in the franchise. tl;dr 2 hours 49 minutes including credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 So fucking stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 You have got to be kidding me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Gotta have room for the deep lore exposition that we all crave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 It's really hard to overstate the creative effort that went into this poster: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 So I'll probably opt to NOT see this in 4DX, got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 That's a lot of John Wick and a long time to keep things tight and right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 there is no possible reason for the movie to be that long unless the makers were getting paid by the run time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The first John Wick film was a lean, supremely well-executed 101 minutes. The second film was 122 minutes. The third film was 131 minutes. There's been a distinctly inverse relationship between the overall quality of each subsequent installment and its run time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Gonna need at least 45 minutes to explain how this is Scott Adkins. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The first John Wick film was a lean, supremely well-executed 101 minutes. The second film was 122 minutes. The third film was 131 minutes. There's been a distinctly inverse relationship between the overall quality of each subsequent installment and its run time. Exactly... there is ZERO reason why this movie should be so long. The best action films are lean and to the point. See The Raid. The Raid 2 was long and bloated as well. A lean action flick should be around 100 minutes, two hours TOPS. This isn't the fucking Godfather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 This Is Why Keanu Reeves Wanted 'John Wick: Chapter 4' to Remain a Theatrical Release COLLIDER.COM 'Chapter 4' was delayed several times due to the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 yeah, I might be there in theatres for this. If not, it’s for sure gonna come home with me via 4K disc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 We got Nas boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 38 minutes ago, silentbob said: yeah, I might be there in theatres for this. If not, it’s for sure gonna come home with me via 4K disc Oh I'm definitely gonna see this in theaters despite the length AND buy the 4K disc. I have the other three already and will be marathoning before seeing this. I DO love the universe they're building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 23 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Exactly... there is ZERO reason why this movie should be so long. The best action films are lean and to the point. See The Raid. The Raid 2 was long and bloated as well. A lean action flick should be around 100 minutes, two hours TOPS. This isn't the fucking Godfather. In your professional experience, would you say that effective editing for "genre films" is becoming a lost art? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: In your professional experience, would you say that effective editing for "genre films" is becoming a lost art? Effective editing for MOST films is a lost art. I remember my editing teacher warning about this back when I was in film school and he's been proven to be right in my opinion. A LOT of films today are too long for no reason and would probably be better served at being limited series on TV than trying to squeeze a 5 hour story into three hours. I'm VERY sensitive to pacing and run times... Shit, I see it in gaming. I'm enjoying God of War Ragnorok's gameplay and exploration, but I couldn't care less about the story at this point because it's starting to feel like they had four hours of story for the main quest that they stretched out in order to pad the length. I could be wrong, but I don't really feel compelled to move the main story because I'm enjoying the gameplay so much and I just don't care. But to answer your question, yes editing is an art that doesn't get the respect it deserves... in my humble opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 10 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Shit, I see it in gaming. I'm enjoying God of War Ragnorok's gameplay and exploration, but I couldn't care less about the story at this point because it's starting to feel like they had four hours of story for the main quest that they stretched out in order to pad the length. I could be wrong, but I don't really feel compelled to move the main story because I'm enjoying the gameplay so much and I just don't care. This mirrors my identical feelings about God of War: Ragnarok as well. The game is FAR too bloated for its own good and I'm finding my motivation to keep playing beyond the 35+ hours that I've put into it so far to be waning. The second and third John Wick films were already pushing my tolerance level and the notion that SOMEHOW the fourth film is worthy of a nearly three hours-long run time is absolutely ludicrous to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: A LOT of films today are too long for no reason and would probably be better served at being limited series on TV than trying to squeeze a 5 hour story into three hours. Yeah if you want thorough storytelling just do it like these Korean shows. 20 episodes, 90 minutes each, if some guy tears off a piece of toilet paper in the first episode the show will make sure you know he wiped his ass with it by the final frame of the last episode 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 21 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Yeah if you want thorough storytelling just do it like these Korean shows. 20 episodes, 90 minutes each, if some guy tears off a piece of toilet paper in the first episode the show will make sure you know he wiped his ass with it by the final frame of the last episode You see it less in American TV than films. I think we're coming out of a golden age of American television where TV has long surpassed films in telling effective entertaining stories. I can't remember the last movie that blew me away. I've seen plenty of films that I've enjoyed in the last ten or so years, but very few that have knocked my socks off. Shit I've probably seen five TV shows in the last six months that are some of the best shows I've ever seen. Television has caught up to and in a low of ways surpassed cinema and one of the reasons is Directors not being disciplined enough to reign in their worst, most self indulgent impulses. Blame Cameron, Tarantino and to a lesser extent Nolan for this. I love all three but a lot of directors aren't as talented as them but still make films just as long if not longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Was reported earlier today that Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 1 is 180 minutes as well. Between that, this, Avatar: WoW, Terrifier 2, if it's a film that I want to live in the world, then the longer run time isn't a detriment to me personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10/10 review from IGN... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Review embargo lifted, so far floating around 90%! Apparently we get to see Osaka & Berlin in this flick which I'm beyond stoked for. Have my tickets for an 11a showing in IMAX on the 26th!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Chris Stuckman likens this to The Raid 2 Redemption, and I am all on board for such high praise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, SoberChef said: Chris Stuckman likens this to The Raid 2 Redemption, and I am all on board for such high praise! Unfortunately, the description that comes to my mind when I think of "The Raid 2: Redemption" is "unnecessarily bloated". This all-but-confirms that I'll watch this one at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Unfortunately, the description that comes to my mind when I think of "The Raid 2: Redemption" is "unnecessarily bloated". This all-but-confirms that I'll watch this one at home. I’m with you on the bloat. Great fights but few and far in between too much drama. First work because it was lean almost pure action movie. I’ll see this maybe in theatres as the last hour of film is said to be the best thing to see in theatres in a very long time. This coming from several reviews I had read 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I like the epic and ensemble nature of The Raid 2 whilst still loving the lean action of the first Raid. They are different kinds of movies, both work when done well. Runtimes don't matter, whether the movie is well-paced and well-edited are what matter. I've watched three hour movies that felt like they flew by and I've watched 90 minute movies that felt interminable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Gonna be shedding a tear at my IMAX screening on the 25th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Unsurprisingly this board once again makes a bigger deal over runtime than is necessary. Once again longer movie comes out to outstanding reviews proving if a movie is paced correctly the runtime doesn’t really matter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 So how much is this bastard going to make this weekend? Projections claim 65 to 70 Million. I'm going to guess closer to 75. People are going to get high and then watch Keanu take on the High Table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 They're all going to show up for Lance Reddick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Saw it in IMAX last night and it really does pump up the John Wick formula to 11. It is a very impressive feat of Gun-Fu choreography with plenty of moments that had my audience cheering out loud. If you've enjoyed John Wick movies in the past, this is a very worthy culmination of that series. They don't waste too much time on the increasingly arcane world building with the bulk of that runtime devoted to John Wick wasting guys. Also, maybe it's just because I've been doing an increasing amount of color work on my own photos, but I'm pretty sure that this is the most heavily graded film since Fury Road. Every frame is more saturated and pushed further towards that famous movie poster look than nearly any film I can think of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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