Amazatron Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jason said: Now Penn Jillette is saying the Apprentice tape exists: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/penn-jillette-says-trump-apprentice-tapes-exist-i-was-room-1134734 Meh, I would believe it more if it came from Teller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jason said: Yeah but Tom Arnold is...Tom Arnold. For most people without the ability to get inside insight about this, Penn Jillette is the most credible person to date to make this claim. Is he though? Quote Jillette says otherwise. However, he will not get in to the specifics of what Trump said because now that Trump is president, the "stakes are really high." "Nothing I can say here hurts my career. But for the world the stakes are higher," he told Vulture. "And what I’m trying to do here is tell you the story emotionally without telling you specifics. I would not feel comfortable talking about what I felt I saw in that room — because when I was on that show I was sleeping four to five hours a night. I was uncomfortable. 'Stress' is the wrong word, but I was not at my best." and yet, Jillette would not budge on specifics because "I am an unreliable narrator. What I do, as much as anything, is I’m a storyteller. And storytellers are liars. So I can emotionally tell you things that happened racially, sexually, and that showed stupidity and lack of compassion when I was in the room with Donald Trump and I guarantee you that I will get details wrong." was he having a seizure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Isnt this akin to saying "I can't be racists because I have a black friend"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Sarah Sanders is disgusting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Littleronin said: Isnt this akin to saying "I can't be racists because I have a black friend"? More like "I can't be racist because the dirty ass hippy liberals interact with me." Just like how the Chick-fil-A dude isn't a homophobe because liberals eat his chicken sandwich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Sarah Sanders is disgusting. HOW DARE YOU INSULT HER APPEARANCE! CIVILITY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: HOW DARE YOU INSULT HER APPEARANCE! CIVILITY!!! I wasn't even thinking of her looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I wasn't even thinking of her looks. "YES YOU WERE DON'T LIE! " -Maggie Haberman, probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jason said: And regarding the "we certainly wouldn't be here" comment: “Some of them are good people.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Jason said: Because we have to put up with racist fucking people, that's the whole goddamn issue. We have to do business with them, ask things of them, and interact with them. Trust me, we wish we didn't, but free speech etc. etc. What a fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Tom Arnold has been saying for YEARS it exists... people I know who worked at NBC says it exists... IT EXISTS. Mark Burnett has a gag order on it though and if it leaks, whoever leaks it will have a million dollar fine staring at them. It's out there and if it comes out it will change... NOTHING. EDIT: He also is on tape sexually harassing a camera woman and a makeup artist I believe. Whoever gets that fine will have it paid off by GoFundMe or some other major doner in a week. But I will agree that it'll likely change nothing other than a few Republicans being "deeply concerned." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ThreePi said: Whoever gets that fine will have it paid off by GoFundMe or some other major doner in a week. But I will agree that it'll likely change nothing other than a few Republicans being "deeply concerned." They won't be deeply concerned. They will state that they find it "unsettling" and they will say "we are waiting for the White House to offer clarification on these comments." But no concern, not even shallow concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, ThreePi said: Whoever gets that fine will have it paid off by GoFundMe or some other major doner in a week. But I will agree that it'll likely change nothing other than a few Republicans being "deeply concerned." They were trying to get Mark Cuban to commit to paying the fine during the election... no dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: They were trying to get Mark Cuban to commit to paying the fine during the election... no dice. If it is released this year, or in '20, my guess is that it will be that someone had access to the tape, but didn't want to risk the legal trouble to attack a guy we all knew wasn't going to win, anyway(remember those days?). Then after the election, this hypothetical person realized they fucked up badly, but did the calculus that the most harmful thing to Trump would be to sit on it for an October surprise since releasing it too early would have it swept away by 100 other scandlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 This whole thing goes to new levels when she hires Avanetti to represent her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Jason said: Did Sarah Sanders literally pull a "But Clinton" defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 You guys realize Omarosa is probably gonna end up in jail right? I can't believe she hasn't broken some laws in recording the President and others IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, MarSolo said: Did Sarah Sanders literally pull a "But Clinton" defense? I'm still waiting for her to use the Chewbaca defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: You guys realize Omarosa is probably gonna end up in jail right? I can't believe she hasn't broken some laws in recording the President and others IN THE WHITE HOUSE. She'll walk. She's got the goods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: You guys realize Omarosa is probably gonna end up in jail right? I can't believe she hasn't broken some laws in recording the President and others IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Plea deal probably with Mueller. No prosecution in exchange for everything she knows. Assuming she can tell the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Plea deal probably with Mueller. No prosecution in exchange for everything she knows. Assuming she can tell the truth. I don't think Mueller would be prosecuting though... Sessions and the Justice Department would, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: I don't think Mueller would be prosecuting though... Sessions and the Justice Department would, right? Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I can't believe that some Federal laws weren't broken... also if SHE could record shit in The White House and Trump, Who else could? She's not exactly Jason Bourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: You guys realize Omarosa is probably gonna end up in jail right? I can't believe she hasn't broken some laws in recording the President and others IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Oh definately. Tapping the Sit room is a serious offense that shouldn't be hand waved away just because it happens to provide good fodder for "our side" this time. It's a testament to the incompetence and corruption in this White House for all the times they want to paint guys like Comey or McCabe as leakers breaking the law the one person who really did break the law leaking about Donald Trump was hired by Donald Trump. I mean, I will shed no tears for Omarosa. I found her unbearable on TV shows a decade before she ever stepped foot in the White House. And I am hesitant to cheer her on now that she decided to "join my side". In fact, to a certain extent knowing that she knew what was going on was wrong, and just how wrong things were, makes her complicity all the more damning. That said, I heard some arguments in favor of her today that I thought were fair. First is that she is one of, if not the first, inner circle people to come forward and tell what she knows. She may be doing it for her own selfish reasons but, and I think this may be the most powerful reason to appreciate to some extent what she is doing, if you are waiting for the pricipaled saint in Trump's inner circle to flip and tell all you are going to be waiting a long time because those people don't exist in Trumpland. It's fucking axiomatic. 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I can't believe that some Federal laws weren't broken... also if SHE could record shit in The White House and Trump, Who else could? She's not exactly Jason Bourne. This is a great point being drowned out a bit. I believe David Frum Tweeted that even allowing a cellphone in the Sit room was a huge security risk because it essentially means any country in the world capable of hacking a phone(which appears to be just an unsecured, civilian phone) could have a mic in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Unless she has recordings of classified info i don't think she broke any laws, and CNN reported they're worried she wasn't the only one recording stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: This is a great point being drowned out a bit. I believe David Frum Tweeted that even allowing a cellphone in the Sit room was a huge security risk because it essentially means any country in the world capable of hacking a phone(which appears to be just an unsecured, civilian phone) could have a mic in the room. I'm also pretty sure that her recording of her conversation with Kelly came after Kelly had banned personal cell phones in the staff areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Unless she has recordings of classified info i don't think she broke any laws, and CNN reported they're worried she wasn't the only one recording stuff. I'm pretty sure she wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I'm in the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend... who I'll watch very closely to make sure she doesn't use any sharp utensils" camp. Omarosa is a horrible human being (I'm convince Michael Clarke Duncan faked his death to get away from her), but for now, I'll root for her because she's outing an even more horrible person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 5 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Tom Arnold has been saying for YEARS it exists... people I know who worked at NBC says it exists... IT EXISTS. Mark Burnett has a gag order on it though and if it leaks, whoever leaks it will have a million dollar fine staring at them. It's out there and if it comes out it will change... NOTHING. EDIT: He also is on tape sexually harassing a camera woman and a makeup artist I believe. People pay well more than million dollars to make minor shit GO AWAY. Being afraid to release a tape of the President of the United States saying the n-word, because of a $1 million fine, makes you a little bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 45 minutes ago, osxmatt said: People pay well more than million dollars to make minor shit GO AWAY. Being afraid to release a tape of the President of the United States saying the n-word, because of a $1 million fine, makes you a little bitch. For crew members who worked on set? Oooookay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: For crew members who worked on set? Oooookay. I meant for Mark Burnett. I misunderstood your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I meant for Mark Burnett. I misunderstood your post. Mark Burnett is the one who imposed the potential fine... he's a big Trump supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Mark Burnett is the one who impose the potential fine... he's a big Trump supporter. Ah. This is something I did not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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