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Preliminary results from two experiments suggest something could be wrong with the basic way physicists think the universe works, a prospect that has the field of particle physics both baffled and...

 

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“New particles, new physics might be just beyond our research,” said Wayne State University particle physicist Alexey Petrov. “It’s tantalizing.”

 

The United States Energy Department’s Fermilab announced results Wednesday of 8.2 billion races along a track outside Chicago that while ho-hum to most people have physicists astir: The muons’ magnetic fields don’t seem to be what the Standard Model says they should be. This follows new results published last month from the European Center for Nuclear Research’s Large Hadron Collider that found a surprising proportion of particles in the aftermath of high-speed collisions.

 

If confirmed, the U.S. results would be the biggest finding in the bizarre world of subatomic particles in nearly 10 years, since the discovery of the Higgs boson, often called the “God particle,” said Aida El-Khadra of the University of Illinois, who works on theoretical physics for the Fermilab experiment.

 

Separately, at the world’s largest atom smasher at CERN, physicists have been crashing protons against each other there to see what happens after. One of the particle colliders’ several separate experiments measures what happens when particles called beauty or bottom quarks collide.

 

The Standard Model predicts that these beauty quark crashes should result in equal numbers of electrons and muons. It’s sort of like flipping a coin 1,000 times and getting about equal numbers of heads and tails, said Large Hadron Collider beauty experiment chief Chris Parkes.

 

But that’s not what happened.

 

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26 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

When asked why I changed my major in college from physics, I'd usually point them to articles like this one


Good call. Bunch of fools who think they can determine ‘objective reality’. The nerve!

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My favorite parts of articles like this are comments from the ohiogiuys of the world who go, “I knew it. Scientists are wrong all the time!”

 

Also I’m stunned that the pic in the article is real and not something out of a modified Source engine. Yikes.

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The results are quite interesting because science youtube has been talking a lot about the uncertainty with the current "standard model".

 

Also just throwing this out there but if you haven't wasted hours on Fermilab's youtube channel I highly recommend it. There is the complex talks/presentation but they also have a few youtube shows that cover complex issues in a more simple manor. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD5B6VoXv41fJ-IW8Wrhz9A

 

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Also PBS Spacetime did an ep yesterday about the results

 

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21 minutes ago, Chris- said:


Good call. Bunch of fools who think they can determine ‘objective reality’. The nerve!

In college I unironically believed in this objective reality claptrap. I was dumb in college. Still am, but now I know I'm dumb.

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54 minutes ago, Chris- said:

Some ‘science’ ya got there, physicists!

 

Physicists are excited by the prospect of being wrong. Being right is boring!

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Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

That's the other thing. Not only am I dumb but I hate being wrong.

 

congratulations on being normal 

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1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Are you trying to say that the dispassionate freaks who "like being wrong" aren't normal? 

 

100%

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17 minutes ago, chakoo said:

 

The results are quite interesting because science youtube has been talking a lot about the uncertainty with the current "standard model".

 

Also just throwing this out there but if you haven't wasted hours on Fermilab's youtube channel I highly recommend it. There is the complex talks/presentation but they also have a few youtube shows that cover complex issues in a more simple manor. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD5B6VoXv41fJ-IW8Wrhz9A

 

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Also PBS Spacetime did an ep yesterday about the results

 


came here to post this damn 

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3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Are you trying to say that the dispassionate freaks who "like being wrong" aren't normal? 

 

Better than being acute. 

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There is an objective reality (insofar as we can cognitively establish one of course) it's just always a work in progress as we discover new shit that updates or changes the old shit we had already put down. It's the nature of science. 

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4 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

I always forget that Jason was a physics major

 

It was way more appealing than sticking it out in political studies. :sun:

 

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One thing I hated was the sheer volume of reading, which has obviously translated to my habits on here. :santasun:

 

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6 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

It was way more appealing than sticking it out in political studies. :sun:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I realized that I needed to get out of political science as a major when a) the economy collapsed in 08 and b) I basically cleaned up and reframed a post of mine from IGN and turned it in for a short assignment that was due. 

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6 hours ago, Kal-El814 said:

Also I’m stunned that the pic in the article is real and not something out of a modified Source engine. Yikes.

 

So I'm not the only one. 

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16 minutes ago, Uaarkson said:

What’s the over/under on how this could affect dark matter?

 

It could very well be related in some way:

 

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The findings of a new paper suggest dark energy might not account for nearly 70% of the ever-accelerating, expanding universe.

 

Here are some recent dark matter-related articles:

 

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If confirmed, the collision between never-before-seen boson stars may solve the long search for the source of dark matter.

 

 

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An analysis of ripples in space-time suggests the mysterious substance consists of primordial black holes.

 

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8 hours ago, chakoo said:

 

The results are quite interesting because science youtube has been talking a lot about the uncertainty with the current "standard model".

 

Also just throwing this out there but if you haven't wasted hours on Fermilab's youtube channel I highly recommend it. There is the complex talks/presentation but they also have a few youtube shows that cover complex issues in a more simple manor. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD5B6VoXv41fJ-IW8Wrhz9A

 

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Also PBS Spacetime did an ep yesterday about the results

 

Ron Burgundy What GIF
 

Me, just about the entire video

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2 hours ago, sblfilms said:

Ron Burgundy What GIF
 

Me, just about the entire video


yeah I spent my time learning about the nature of reality, and you spent your time learning how to get fucking wealthy. I’d say you won 

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