Guest Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: A winning margin of ~0.2% can hide in any number of variables and just because in the past things have worked out doesn't mean they will continue to do so. So we don't need to handwaive away the impact that these things are designed to do Pointing out that something doesn’t actually work for the desired affect isn’t handwaiving, it’s pointing out that it doesn’t work. But some people care more about intent than actual effects! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Georgia losing the All Star game is more about loss of prestige than the economic effects. It also opens the floodgates for other sports/corporations to put pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Pointing out that something doesn’t actually work for the desired affect isn’t handwaiving, it’s pointing out that it doesn’t work. But some people care more about intent than actual effects! They're both important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They're both important I disagree, but that is more a philosophical issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: I disagree, but that is more a philosophical issue. The intent to make a bad faith effort to attempt to restrict the franchise based on a complete lie is important. Especially so since the white party in a historically discriminatory state is making these moves right after Black and Latino voters voted in numbers that caused the white party to lose multiple elections. If you don't think the intent here is important then I dunno man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 6:03 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "...what the MLB's knee-jerk decision means: cancel culture and woke political activists are coming for every aspect of your life, sports included". God, so dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The intent to make a bad faith effort to attempt to restrict the franchise based on a complete lie is important. Especially so since the white party in a historically discriminatory state is making these moves right after Black and Latino voters voted in numbers that caused the white party to lose multiple elections. If you don't think the intent here is important then I dunno man. Also if all of this bullshit really doesn't affect turnout much, then I'd assume it means that it's because the minority voters are sticking it out through the ever-increasing bullshit to get their votes in. So regardless of the turnout effect, people are still being meaningfully harmed. And as you noted the margins on the presidential and Senate runoff races were super tight so yeah, maybe this stuff only suppresses votes at the margins...but that's all that they need to do to swing things back from D to R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I'm still surprised every day how just fucking stupid these people and I shouldn't be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 This is one of those times where the intent of the bill is more outrageous than its actual impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 How can you even accurately determine something like whether turnout is affected? Do they canvas people asking if they didn't vote because of voter suppression or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I think a law designed to do nothing more than make it difficult to vote for people who vote against the party in power is fair to describe as suppression, even if people overcome those difficulties. The goal is to choose the electorate. The methods are making it difficult to vote. It does make it difficult to vote, for people who vote against Republicans. Saying that it "doesn't work" just because it may not meet the goal elides the reality. Especially because it allows for further suppression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ricofoley Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: This is one of those times where the intent of the bill is more outrageous than its actual impact. Right. Even if there's a 0.0% change in 2024 turnout in GA, it will have solidified in some people's minds that some sort of fraud occurred in 2020 that they had to respond to, which increases the chances of another January 6th type incident in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Your occasional reminder that national Democrats really fucked screwed the pooch by ignoring statehouse elections in 2020. With fewer state governments divided by party than in years past, GOP has edge in redistricting WWW.PEWRESEARCH.ORG When legislatures get the data to draw new congressional maps, Republicans will drive that process in 20 states, versus 11 for Democrats. Hopefully blue state redistricting offsets the red state fuckery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Does Hogan have to sign off on what happens in MD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 10:22 AM, Keyser_Soze said: Hank Aaron, the king of taking his ball and going home to make a point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 lmao these people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Corporations are people, but only when they donate to the GOP, not when they protest the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Texas Gov. Greg Abbott backs out of Texas Rangers' first pitch over MLB's decision to move All-Star Game from Georgia WWW.ESPN.COM Texas Gov. Greg Abbott had been scheduled to throw out the first pitch at the Rangers' home opener Monday, but he backed out, citing MLB's decision to move the All-Star... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Abbott is trying so hard to get his culture warrior credit back after people were mad about his early handling of the pandemic and the freeze more recently. A real bozo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, osxmatt said: "We're gonna take away baseballs antitrust exemption so they're just like basketball and football!" I scream while watching XFL reruns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Can we PLEASE just fight for a world where the sounds you make while being oppressed don't bother me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Things are going well in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Things are going well in Texas. My team's (Mariners) stadium looks the same before COVID, during COVID, and is looking the same after COVID. Nowhere near that crowded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Things are going well in Texas. What is funny is they are placing no cap limits on opening day but will do reduced capacity for the rest of April and into May. So you can have ONE super spreader event, but no more than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: My team's (Mariners) stadium looks the same before COVID, during COVID, and is looking the same after COVID. Nowhere near that crowded. When they announced that it reopened with 25% capacity, I thought to myself, "isn't it always at 25% capacity?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: When they announced that it reopened with 25% capacity, I thought to myself, "isn't it always at 25% capacity?" But now can say they had X number of sellouts this season! They are probably begging Inslee to keep the cap at 25% 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: He has a statue of himself too. What a thirsty loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Jason said: Man, it’s really amazing how close the sentences complaining about cancel culture and the one trying to cancel like 10 places are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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