ThreePi Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Jwheel86 said: We've got a Democratic Governor, I'm just saying, either Sinema or Manchin could be made irrelevant..... A quick Goolge search says NC Governor fills a Senate vacancy by picking from three candidates proposed by the former senator's party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I am glad the climate change part is somewhat positive. Climate change is the number one thing that depresses the shit out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 The press holding Republicans accountable for their actions? Why, that's not their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: The press holding Republicans accountable for their actions? Why, that's not their job. Counterpoint: if this is popular, which many parts are, I don't want a single republican to be able to claim they helped. Which is why it's so disappointing that rx drug negotiation isn't part of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Counterpoint: if this is popular, which many parts are, I don't want a single republican to be able to claim they helped. Which is why it's so disappointing that rx drug negotiation isn't part of it Counter-counterpoint: if it passes and is popular, Republicans will just claim credit for it anyways, and the media won't care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: Counter-counterpoint: if it passes and is popular, Republicans will just claim credit for it anyways, and the media won't care. Also true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 The House progressives have blocked the vote on the infrastructure bill, insisting that the vote be held in tandem with the reconciliation framework: Nancy Pelosi pulls the plug on a House vote for Biden's infrastructure bill for the second time as progressives threatened to sink it WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Pelosi wanted to pass the infrastructure bill to give Biden a major policy win but ended up yanking the vote for the second time in 28 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 You jabronis are making a mistake thinking the bills have to passed together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: You jabronis are making a mistake thinking the bills have to passed together. It's on you if you can't tell how blatantly obvious it is that the insistence on infrastructure going first is so that they can walk away from the reconciliation deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jason said: It's on you if you can't tell how blatantly obvious it is that the insistence on infrastructure going first is so that they can walk away from the reconciliation deal. All I know is that, the Democrats have wasted a lot of political capital the last 6 months on the reconciliation deal, only to have both that deal and infrastructure almost get scuttled. They are on the verge of being just as dumb and ineffective as the GOP congress from 2016-2018. I don't think they want to be compared to those losers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 22 hours ago, mclumber1 said: I recently learned of (but not read) this book by a Holocaust survivor, on how to deal with shitty situations. If you are struggling on a personal level, this might be a good read. Man's Search for Meaning - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG I've never read the book but when I came across this quote it just made me gasp and want to sit down. A quote from Man's Search for Meaning WWW.GOODREADS.COM Once, an elderly general practitioner consulted me because of his severe depression. He could not overcome the loss of his wife who had died two years be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Is the reticence to paid leave a cudgel at those with neet kids? Like single payer healthcare would bare so many wounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, unogueen said: Is the reticence to paid leave a cudgel at those with neet kids? Like single payer healthcare would bare so many wounds. No, I don't think it's directed at those with NEET children, but rather it's part and parcel of the deranged "Protestant work ethic" that's the foundational myth of the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Counter-counterpoint: if it passes and is popular, Republicans will just claim credit for it anyways, and the media won't care. ACA is popular now; what credit have they taken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: ACA is popular now; what credit have they taken? Several have taken credit for infrastructure like bridges paid for with Obama era stimulus money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: ok All sounds good to me. Let's do what she wants and get this on with. Also, White House correspondent for CNN: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: ok FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT IN EXCHANGE FOR THEM?!? JUST SAY IT, GODDAMNIT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT IN EXCHANGE FOR THEM?!? JUST SAY IT, GODDAMNIT! My rich donors need to get richer, a new Sailor Moon RPG, and a sequel Sailor Moon anime with a dub starring her a Sailor Moon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 7 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Counter-counterpoint: if it passes and is popular, Republicans will just claim credit for it anyways, and the media won't care. I was going to say, they will claim it turned out so good because of their opposition. They’ve done it many times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 @mclumber1 @thewhyteboar I really do encourage everyone to read that book by Viktor Frankl - it's one of the most important works of literature in the 20th century even if some of its concepts are somewhat controversial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: ACA is popular now; what credit have they taken? Republicans shamelessly take credit for Covid relief they voted against WWW.VOX.COM And it’s not going over well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, Jason said: Republicans shamelessly take credit for Covid relief they voted against WWW.VOX.COM And it’s not going over well. You guys are fucking this up. I asked about the ACA. This isn’t that. But let’s assume I asked about this. Senator wicker is in a safe seat anyway, but he was called out, as this article from the media states, by other reporters, which flies in the face of the media doesn’t care thing. Good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: You guys are fucking this up. I asked about the ACA. They were insisting they'd keep all the good parts of Obamacare and just get rid of the mandate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jason said: They were insisting they'd keep all the good parts of Obamacare and just get rid of the mandate. That means admission that it’s good, not credit for its passage. Nobody associates the ACA with Republicans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 11 hours ago, SaysWho? said: That means admission that it’s good, not credit for its passage. Nobody associates the ACA with Republicans. People associate the ACA with what they like and Obamacare with the Dems and what they don't like. (or are told they don't like aka socialism/government overreach) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Chadatog said: People associate the ACA with what they like and Obamacare with the Dems and what they don't like. Gonna need some receipts on this one. ACA has become more popular over time, and I haven’t seen anything indicating there’s been a shift with whom it’s associated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: This man is so afraid of people being given something he thinks they don't deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 hours ago, CayceG said: This man is so afraid of people being given something he thinks they don't deserve. Nah, but the special interests he's beholden to sure are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 20 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Gonna need some receipts on this one. ACA has become more popular over time, and I haven’t seen anything indicating there’s been a shift with whom it’s associated. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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