Ricofoley Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 WaPo: Progressives are sensible realists. The "moderates" are ideologues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 If this goes down Biden needs to start the midterms now by endorsing primary opponents for these people and making the midterms about getting better Democrats. He won't though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Pelosi wants legislative language for reconciliation before infrastructure vote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 NYTimes finally admits water is wet, moderates aren't actually moderates, and campaign donations are influencing politicians. Unpopulism - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Why are Democrats talking about scrapping some of the most popular parts of their agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 give me what I want then I swear I'll negotiate with you in good faith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Something something Mitch McConnell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Manchin said outside the Capitol that he floated a $1.5 trillion price tag to Biden. Senator Baldwin of Wisconsin is being interviewed now and says Manchin is "too focused" on numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Does anyone know what the hell Senator Sailor Moon actually wants?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Does anyone know what the hell Senator Sailor Moon actually wants?!? Nope. That's actually been part of the coverage (Democrats frustrated that the conservative Democrats' complaints have been vague). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Does anyone know what the hell Senator Sailor Moon actually wants?!? Remember a couple weeks ago when she had spreadsheets?!? Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 CNN is reporting that Representative Jayapal claims that "there aren't enough votes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I guess maybe Manchin DID kinda/sorta make known what he wants: Manchin proposed $1.5T top-line number to Schumer this summer - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Manchin also suggested beginning debate no earlier than Oct. 1. Quote Joe Manchin proposed a deal to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer this summer to limit the total cost of Democrats' sweeping spending bill to $1.5 trillion, according to a copy of the agreement obtained by POLITICO. Manchin also suggested beginning debate no earlier than Oct. 1. The West Virginia senator has been distributing the document to Democratic colleagues and leaders in recent days to underscore that he has outlined his red lines on President Joe Biden’s jobs and families plan. The one-page understanding is dated July 28, right before the Senate passed a bipartisan infrastructure bill that Manchin helped write and ahead of Senate passage of a budget setting up a spending bill as large as $3.5 trillion. In the document, Manchin proposes raising the corporate tax rate to 25 percent, the top tax rate on income to 39.6 percent, raising the capital gains tax rate to 28 percent and says that any revenue from the bill “exceeding” $1.5 trillion will go to deficit reduction. Manchin has repeatedly raised the deficit as one of his major concerns, and in this document he asks for the Federal Reserve to taper its quantitative easing program in the interest of relieving inflation concerns and asks that no funds in this bill be spent until previous Covid aid money is disbursed. “Senator Manchin does not guarantee that he will vote for the final reconciliation legislation if it exceeds the conditions outlined in this agreement,” the paper reads in bold text. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 That's dumb but reasonable, something that can be worked from. And aside from the don't spend until covid funds are gone and stopping QE, it's not bad. he still needs to say what programs are getting cut from the 3.5T and what arent. Also worth mentioning is that he wants all clean energy stuff to be under his committees jurisdiction which seems bad tbh Shouldn't have come down from the initial 6T for mark Warner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Does anyone know what the hell Senator Sailor Moon actually wants?!? Attention. That's it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Attention. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Yeah I don't believe anything she says. "I have very specific details about what I want, but I am not willing to share them because I don't believe in expressing my views in public" is such a copout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jason said: (rubs temples) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jason said: This fucking guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: (rubs temples) 10 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: This fucking guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 If there isn't significant movement on climate related provisions tank both bills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jason said: The tweet is still there: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Joe Manchin wanted $4 Trillion in infrastructure spending eight months ago WWW.NEWSWEEK.COM The West Virginia senator has said he can't support a proposed $3.5 trillion infrastructure package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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