Anathema- Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 17 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Is the senate returning this week Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Infrastructure success could help keep swing Pa. districts — and the U.S. House — blue WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Democratic Reps. Matt Cartwright and Susan Wild are top GOP targets. Their political future could hinge on the success of President Joe Biden's infrastructure package. Crux is how these bills play in Pennsylvania. Republicans will talk inflation stuff, whereas Democrats will talk about jobs and infrastructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 yes this is why the era of bipartisanship is over 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 They're likely starting this the week of July 19th as Sanders puts the finishing touches on the budget. Dems wrestle over control of the infrastructure throttle - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Moderates and liberals are still arguing over scope and size as a pivotal Senate vote draws closer. Quote After three months of plodding negotiations, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has laid out an aggressive timetable that envisions passage of both a budget resolution to allow a huge Democrats-only tax and spending package plus a vote on a deal with Republican centrists to plow nearly $600 billion into roads, bridges and broadband. Schumer will reiterate the timetable in a Dear Colleague letter to Democrats on Friday, according to a Democratic aide, and warn of the possibility of working long nights, weekends and into the August recess to finish that work. Quote Every Democrat knows that the partisan legislation could be this year’s last big train to which they can hitch their long-sought priorities, and demand is high. Budget Chair Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) wants Medicare expansion, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) is pressing for immigration reform and Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) is pushing her colleagues on child care spending. A whole slate of progressives want a major climate focus. And there will be restraints on spending from moderates and from the Senate parliamentarian on what can pass muster and avoid a GOP filibuster. While Sanders initially suggested spending $6 trillion to complement the bipartisan deal, more moderate members are likely to tamp that down to $4 trillion or even lower — depending in large part what moderate Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) agree to. Asked if she had a number in mind, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) replied: "Yeah, $6 trillion." Quote Rep. Kurt Schrader (D-Ore.), who has already declared he will vote against the House’s budget resolution, said “it's time to stop” spending after the massive Covid package. At the moment, House leaders can only afford to lose a couple more Democrats. "When I was talking to the White House legislative team the other day, they said, 'Oh, I bet you lie awake at night counting dollars on this,'" Yarmuth said. "I said, 'No, I lie awake counting votes.'" Love that Sanders has this power. The fact that "moderates" are "likely to tamp that down to $4 trillion or even lower" shows what starting high actually fucking does. There's high "DEMS IN DISARRAY" energy in here to make it sound more dramatic, but I think it's a good overview regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 These packages only seem so big because we've gone years deferring spending on things that need to get done. That said, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: These packages only seem so big because we've gone years deferring spending on things that need to get done. That said, Well said on the bold. The number is high because we haven't done shit. I'm gonna hold off congratulating Biden until everything is finished (because I'm sure he's waiting for my specific approval), but his strategy with the two bills has seemed very promising, especially since Manchin even says the reconciliation bill is inevitable. If he gets both, that will be a big deal. Hope this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: These packages only seem so big because we've gone years deferring spending on things that need to get done. Honestly this. We’ve got a jobs problem and we’ve got infrastructure and inspection problems. The fact that we don’t have the political will to turn that into a peanut butter cup is depressing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I'm one of them! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 senator warner please do this to own the Bernie Bros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 I'm owned I'm owned 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I'm owned I'm owned Someone will fuck this up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 I can't wait to see the ways this will be stupid, but right now I'm gonna be positive and say this is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Won't some states just refuse to use these funds, though? Tennessee did that with Obamacare's medicaid expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I can't wait to see the ways this will be stupid, but right now I'm gonna be positive and say this is a good thing Child tax credit extension let’s gooooooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, CayceG said: Won't some states just refuse to use these funds, though? Tennessee did that with Obamacare's medicaid expansion. If it's federally administered they can't really do shit outside of the courts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If it's federally administered they can't really do shit outside of the courts That's good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 Republicans Who Worked on Bipartisan Infrastructure Now Won't Commit to It TRUTHOUT.ORG Several GOP senators now say they’re wary of the bipartisan infrastructure proposal, leaving it in limbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, CayceG said: Won't some states just refuse to use these funds, though? Tennessee did that with Obamacare's medicaid expansion. As a side note from what bm said, Medicaid expansion ended up being popular enough that plenty of Republican governors ended up supporting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: As a side note from what bm said, Medicaid expansion ended up being popular enough that plenty of Republican governors ended up supporting it. Not mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I can't wait to see the ways this will be stupid, but right now I'm gonna be positive and say this is a good thing Ugh, stop calling it Eldercare. It's funding to eliminate Medicaid HCBS waiting lists which have 800,000+ people on them, mostly people with disabilities. 12 hours ago, CayceG said: Won't some states just refuse to use these funds, though? Tennessee did that with Obamacare's medicaid expansion. This is actually possible with the Medicaid HCBS component since States would have to accept. The ACA had an HCBS component which only 7 states accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 hell yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, SaysWho? said: As a side note from what bm said, Medicaid expansion ended up being popular enough that plenty of Republican governors ended up supporting it. 5 hours ago, CayceG said: Not mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Praise Bernie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I guess he didn't like the Byrd Tweet. 16 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: As opposed to when Trump targeted blue states with his policies to punish them for daring to not vote for him..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Fuckin based Bernie oh my lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I guess he didn't like the Byrd Tweet. As opposed to when Trump targeted blue states with his policies to punish them for daring to not vote for him..... I loved that tweet and love how he hated it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 well this is a surprise 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 Also: I know this has a lot of Dem only budget stuff in the "infrastructure" thread, but since Dems say they're linked together keeping it in here is actually helpful to reduce confusion imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remarkableriots Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 8:51 AM, Kal-El814 said: Honestly this. We’ve got a jobs problem and we’ve got infrastructure and inspection problems. The fact that we don’t have the political will to turn that into a peanut butter cup is depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 Here it is, here's the bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 lmaoooo Just build more nuke and solar plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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