Jason Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Jason said: Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema received the legal maximum of donations from several known GOP donors, new FEC filings show WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Progressives have grown frustrated with Arizona Sen. Sinema, who has made headlines in recent months for posing roadblocks to Biden's agenda. Manchin accepted over $400,000 from energy companies and GOP donors in the third quarter WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia raised $1.6 million in the third quarter, with over $400,000 coming from the oil and gas industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 Family income cap of $60k is very bad and is an effective tax increase on those above the cutoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 They'll just keep lowering the bar, just start campaign against them and shelve this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Fuck it, don't pass anything. Let the GOP take full control in 2022 and 2024. Let this country burn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Quote The senator is less interested in the $225 billion to $450 billion paid family leave proposal or $400 billion for a new program to provide elder care, according to people familiar with the matter. It's not a new program, it's funding to make an existing program functional, specifically putting a dent in the waiting lists that are 10 to 15 years long! Also, Media, stop calling it Eldercare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Jason said: I don't even get this one, it isn't some weird thing he's using to line his pockets, it's just some straight up cold shit to the middle class. $60k for two incomes isn't a whole lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 It's super dumb that we base current year benefits on what was earned last year. Just allow everyone to use the benefit, and if they made too much, then they get the appropriate back charge when they do their taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 We could easily keep it at 60T by cutting the defense budget for all the wars we are not fighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Biden to meet with House moderates and progressives Tuesday as Dems struggle reach reconciliation deal WWW.FOXBUSINESS.COM President Biden is also making calls to many House Democrats Monday and will also go to Scranton Wednesday as he pushes for trillions in social and climate programs. Quote President Biden is meeting with separate groups of moderate and progressive House Democrats on Tuesday, as Democrats continue to reach for a deal on their massive reconciliation spending bill less than two weeks before their latest self-imposed deadline. "Tomorrow, he will host two difference meetings with House members here at the White House, one with moderates and one with progressive members," White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said of the president Monday. "We are encouraged by the accelerated pace of talks and are eager to get this done." Psaki also said Biden met with Progressive Caucus Chair Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., on Monday morning and that he has regularly been on the phone with "members who represent the full spectrum of views of Hill Democrats." Psaki's optimistic tone comes despite what remain massive policy differences between moderates and progressives that will be extremely difficult to bridge if Democrats are to get all of their members behind a single bill. Quote Top Democrats are aiming to get an agreement at least on a framework for the reconciliation bill by Oct. 31 because that is when a temporary reauthorization of surface transportation programs expires. The idea is that if progressives are given assurances that a reconciliation bill that meets their demands will pass, they will halt their blockade of the infrastructure bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 There's still no reason to be this insistent that infrastructure go first unless the goal is killing the reconciliation bill immediately after, especially given tying them together was the original deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remarkableriots Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: Cory Booker supports him so how bad could he be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remarkableriots Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, Jason said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Ricofoley said: Decoding Kyrsten Sinema’s Style - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Sometimes a dress is just a dress. Sometimes it’s a strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 at four weeks a Dr won't clear a mother to go back to work 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 Siri tell me how to actively remove people from the labor force via bad policy. My wife would probably have to leave the labor force. It would be damn near her whole salary--as a teacher--to pay an extra $1000/month for daycare for our kid. Then I would need to pay more for shittier health insurance (currently get our family insurance through the district which is pretty good) We wouldn't be the only ones! This would be a goddamn disaster for Democrats! Better nothing than actively increasing costs for people with young kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 This is what we deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Look, the US is a failed state. The sooner Americans accept this, the sooner the break up can begin and some people in good states (i.e. urban and coastal) can have better lives. The rest of the former US can then continue to spiral into the new world version of eastern Europe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 13 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: at four weeks a Dr won't clear a mother to go back to work This $1.9T is over the course of 10 years, right? So it's less than $190B a year? Doesn't the US spend nearly $750B on defense each year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 'He Isn’t Negotiating, He Is Killing the Bill': Ilhan Omar Slams Joe Manchin WWW.COMMONDREAMS.ORG "Thanks to the butchering of Manchin, Sinema, and the greed of their corporate lobbyists," said one critic, the Democrats' Build Back Better plan has been slashed down to just $1.9 trillion in spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Siri tell me how to actively remove people from the labor force via bad policy. My wife would probably have to leave the labor force. It would be damn near her whole salary--as a teacher--to pay an extra $1000/month for daycare for our kid. Then I would need to pay more for shittier health insurance (currently get our family insurance through the district which is pretty good) We wouldn't be the only ones! This would be a goddamn disaster for Democrats! Better nothing than actively increasing costs for people with young kids. This all makes sense if Manchin (and Sinema probably) wants the GOP to retake Congress in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Look, the US is a failed state. The sooner Americans accept this, the sooner the break up can begin and some people in good states (i.e. urban and coastal) can have better lives. The rest of the former US can then continue to spiral into the new world version of eastern Europe. There is no version of a US breakup that doesn't destroy your country as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jason said: This all makes sense if Manchin (and Sinema probably) wants the GOP to retake Congress in 2022. I mean at this point aren't they receiving donations from GOP sources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 Agree with this, but it's also worth noting that these new programs don't get the analysis and attention they deserve because of the filibuster and having to put all of this in one big bill rather than several smaller bills one at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I am increasingly convinced that neither side is motivated to eliminate the filibuster mainly because so few of these boobs are capable of competent analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anathema- Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Siri tell me how to actively remove people from the labor force via bad policy. My wife would probably have to leave the labor force. It would be damn near her whole salary--as a teacher--to pay an extra $1000/month for daycare for our kid. Then I would need to pay more for shittier health insurance (currently get our family insurance through the district which is pretty good) We wouldn't be the only ones! This would be a goddamn disaster for Democrats! Better nothing than actively increasing costs for people with young kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Never miss a chance to point out both Bruenings are full of shit. Always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Agree with this, but it's also worth noting that these new programs don't get the analysis and attention they deserve because of the filibuster and having to put all of this in one big bill rather than several smaller bills one at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 At this point, it might be better if we don't pass anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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